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[Owlbread]

What about the eastern and far eastern portions? Like Siberia and further east? I don't know how well held together that region and east is as far as connection to Russian culture.

Cechenya and Dagestan will definetly sieze the moment and go independent.

It would be just the beginning of the Balkanization of Russia and losing large portions of territory.

Oh yeah, I just realized while typing, there is the issue of any nukes in the breakaway territories.

There are many Republics further East that should generally belong to their respective ethnic minorities e.g. Buryatia, the Altai Republic and so on, but there are similar numbers of Russians in those Republics as there are in Crimea now so I would imagine they would stay close to Russia. However they would probably seek greater autonomy in general over there because seemingly a lot of Far Eastern Russians are unhappy with the over-centralisation in the country.

To put it in perspective, I remember when I asked a Russian friend of mine where he was from he said "Central Russia" so I said "Wow, do you mean like around Novosibirsk?" and he said "No, near Moscow".

Tuva is one of the only places outside of the Caucasus that I think could conceivably secede. They are basically independent right now in that they have a tiny Russian minority there (comparatively), they're predominantly Buddhist, they used to have a lot of trappings of an independent state back in the '90s (they were de facto independent like Tatarstan) and they're so far from Russia and so close to Mongolia there's really no reason to be a part of Russia.

Maybe the US can sign a non-proliferation treaty with them under terms that we promise to never, ever be hostile in return for their giving up nukes? 

I'm sure everyone will work it out. Kazakhstan briefly held a hilarious quantity of nuclear weapons when they became independent. It's a miracle Islamic extremists were so stupid and single minded in their attempts to rule Afghanistan/take over Tajikistan and the like that they never tried to take any of it.

[smjjames]

Oh yeah, I just realized while typing, there is the issue of any nukes in the breakaway territories.

Maybe the US can sign a non-proliferation treaty with them under terms that we promise to never, ever be hostile in return for their giving up nukes? 

Never ever be hostile to THEM you mean.

[Comrade P.]

Indeed, it is entirely possible that Crimeans really wants to join Russia. If so, why not. The fact is that we simply don't know, thanks to Russian intervention.

Do you mean that they were military oppressed? I disagree with that point because it sounds pretty strange. In Moscow, representatives of Crimea claimed that they asked for military assistance in frames of international treaty between Ukraine and Russia - Russia was allowed to have troops in Sevastopol, 25000 tops, and that number was not exceeded during the whole so called intervention. Source - Putin's recent speech. I sincerely believe that our president does know shiznit about our military treaties.

[Sergarr]

shiznit

First time I hear that word.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Comrade P. So, if American troops from Guantanamo will capture Havana it will be totally legit?

Don't you see some difference between having a right to have a base and some troops inside and invading using that base?

[Sheb]

Yeah, Russia got a right to troops in their base, not anywhere in Crimea. Also the referendum was a joke. Surely even you should recognize this. So we don't have proof that a majority of Crimeans currently wants to join Russia.

[smjjames]

I know this is completely hypothetical because Russia has nukes, but would Russia ever be in danger of being booted from the UN security council? Maybe the mere threat of it would make them sit, roll, and play dead, while growling at the same time.

Comrade P. So, if American troops from Guantanamo will capture Havana it will be totally legit?

Don't you see some difference between having a right to have a base and some troops inside and invading using that base?

I like this example of yours.

[Sheb]

I don't think there even is a mechanism for booting permanent members out.

[smjjames]

I don't think there even is a mechanism for booting permanent members out.

Too bad they didn't make a contingency plan.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Spoiler: very symbolic (click to show/hide)

 

[Comrade P.]

shiznit

First time I hear that word.

Gizoogle, bro. At least it was intended to be. Spontaneous willing to add a bit of dat shiznit.

Comrade P. So, if American troops from Guantanamo will capture Havana it will be totally legit?

Don't you see some difference between having a right to have a base and some troops inside and invading using that base?

It depends on how the people see these troops. If they see them like oppressors, they will be oppressors. In Crimea, different thing happened. They just didn't see them in that way. I think.

[10ebbor10]

Poor Russian. He didn't even get drinking water.

[Owlbread]

Gizoogle, bro. At least it was intended to be. Spontaneous willing to add a bit of dat shiznit.

Scottish independence is ballin over uncommitted, say SNP
Da Guardian - 4 minutes ago
There was tha rap up in February by George Osborne, tha chancellor, vetoin any sterlin pact between tha UK n' a independent Scotland.

Oh god, this website.

Scotland's Referendum 2014
www.scotreferendum.com/
‎
If Scotland votes Fuck dat shit, will there be another referendum on independence at a later date, biatch? ... What will a independent Scotland's policy be on immigration?

[smjjames]

Spoiler: very symbolic (click to show/hide)

 

Poor Mr. Russian ambassador looks frustrated.

[Comrade P.]

Poor Russian. He didn't even get drinking water.

He has two extra ones from Nigeria and Korea