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[Ukrainian Ranger]

I hope that it wouldnt, because: a) war is terrible b) Ukrainian army (if alone) cannot match with our (suddenly) agressive neighbour, so it would lead us to same annexation, but burdened with hatred, corpses and destruction.

So you suggest to wait till Russian enter, disarm us and do whatever they want hoping that they'll be merciful?

It looks like our current government acts in the same way. Hope you like it

[MarcAFK]

So uh, Crimean Tartars to be evicted from the land they're 'Illegally occupying" and to be peacefully resettled in new terretory in the region.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
What kind of reaction would be expected from this?

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Hey, look, who called me crazy for saying this would happen as soon as it can?

[Ak-Sai]

I hope that it wouldnt, because: a) war is terrible b) Ukrainian army (if alone) cannot match with our (suddenly) agressive neighbour, so it would lead us to same annexation, but burdened with hatred, corpses and destruction.

So you suggest to wait till Russian enter, disarm us and do whatever they want hoping that they'll be merciful?

It looks like our current government acts in the same way. Hope you like it

No, I am not suggesting anyone to anything,  and no, I'm not asking anyone to wait. I am sharing my view of situation, while not trying to provoke someone to actions, this is a bay12 community forum, after all, not the local resistance forum ).

I just hope that our government would gather some true support (something more influental than sanctions or just disagreement) before armed confrontation with enemy which exceeds us in terms of force (number of soldiers, their equipment and training quality, machines and so on). Else, as I said, we'll end with same foreign occupation perils multiplied by war perils. If it helps - all aforemention thoughts are IMHO. And, in case if it is unclear - no, I definitely dont want occupation of my country (nor region or even town) by foreigners.

BTW, I came without any offence to anyone person or opinion, just to calmly share some thoughts, gather viewpoints and see what people (especialy foreign) think about our situation. Definetely not to be attacked for just for expressing my thoughts.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

So uh, Crimean Tartars to be evicted from the land they're 'Illegally occupying" and to be peacefully resettled in new terretory in the region.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
What kind of reaction would be expected from this?

Well that's not good.
Though, it's important to note the old Ukrainian gov had land disputes with them as well, (which weren't settled).
It'll definitely make (more) headlines. Am more worried about local crazies using it as an excuse, personally.

[da_nang]

So uh, Crimean Tartars to be evicted from the land they're 'Illegally occupying" and to be peacefully resettled in new terretory in the region.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
What kind of reaction would be expected from this?

Lebensraum. One by one, the pieces fall into place.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Though, it's important to note the old Ukrainian gov had land disputes with them as well, (which weren't settled).

Wrong. Ukrainian government had no land disputes with Tatars. Local Crimean government did and would  throw Crimean Tatars away much sooner if Crimean Tatars didn't have some support from Kyiv. Now with that gone all Crimean Tatars will be kicked out from all lands that have any value.

[DJ]

So, can we expect Tatar insurgence now?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

So, can we expect Tatar insurgence now?

Insurgencies don't appear out of thin air. Insurgents need weapons and getting those aren't easy. So don't expect stuff blowing up in the the next few months. But it will appear I don't doubt it

[MetalSlimeHunt]

So, can we expect Tatar insurgence now?

Insurgencies don't appear out of thin air. Insurgents need weapons and getting those aren't easy. So don't expect stuff blowing up in the the next few months. But it will appear I don't doubt it

Well, you know. Unless Russia starts putting the Tatars in "temporary holding facilities" for "the mutual safety of the Crimean people".

[Helgoland]

So, can we expect Tatar insurgence now?

Insurgencies don't appear out of thin air. Insurgents need weapons and getting those aren't easy. So don't expect stuff blowing up in the the next few months. But it will appear I don't doubt it

Well, you know. Unless Russia starts putting the Tatars in "temporary holding facilities" for "the mutual safety of the Crimean people".

Giving Turkey the possibility to recycle the Russians' excuse for getting involved...

[Ghazkull]

Welp, time to get some Old Friends together, hustle up all the displaced Prussians and march back into Königsberg.
After all, there are still some ethnic germans left there last i looked and their german speaking is persecuted too, maybe the house of my great-grandfather still stands...

i wonder if russia would either leave Crimea if we pulled it, would really hand over Eastern Prussia or if jus ton the next day german proteters would look into the barrels of some Russian Tanks.

EDIT: sorry i just noticed that there are more Ukrainians and Tatars in there, maybe the Ukrainian Government should play a little bit of "an eye for an eye".

[Ukrainian Ranger]

EDIT: sorry i just noticed that there are more Ukrainians and Tatars in there, maybe the Ukrainian Government should play a little bit of "an eye for an eye".

Heh. You can leave Königsberg for yourself.

There are quite a lot of ethnic Ukrainians in oil\gas rich areas of Siberia.... And Russia has zero Ukrainian schools (not counting some private ones)
Official Russian census claims that there are only 2 millions of ethnic Ukrainians but I say that it is a total bullshit. 5-10 if not 15 millions is a much more realistic number.

It is a shameless hypocrisy to talk about persecutions of Russian speakers in Ukraine when ethnic rights of Ukrainians in Russia are ignored

[olemars]

This is extremely not cool. I guess this was what happened in that video someone posted yesterday?

OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media Dunja Mijatović today expressed her outrage about the attack by a group of members of the Ukrainian political party “Svoboda”, including some members of Verkhovna Rada, on the acting President of National Television Company of Ukraine (NTU), forcing him to resign.

“I am appalled by this outrageous action, which goes against all media freedom values and cannot be tolerated,” Mijatović wrote in a letter to Oleksandr Turchinov, the acting President of Ukraine. “This is a particularly serious incident as some attackers not only represent the legislative branch of power, but also are members of the freedom of speech and information committee of the Parliament.”

On 18 March a group of individuals reportedly belonging to Ukrainian political party “Svoboda”, including some members of Verkhovna Rada, stormed the office of the acting President of the National Television Company of Ukraine, Aleksandr Panteleymonov, intimidated him and forced him to sign a resignation letter over allegations that his channel criticized “Svoboda” and aired anti-Ukrainian content. One of the attackers was identified as Igor Miroshnychenko, Deputy Head of the Parliament's Committee on Freedom of Speech and Information.

At least the election observer mission is already shaping up and will presumably not consist of a Moscow biker gang.

[smjjames]

So uh, Crimean Tartars to be evicted from the land they're 'Illegally occupying" and to be peacefully resettled in new terretory in the region.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
What kind of reaction would be expected from this?

Lebensraum. One by one, the pieces fall into place.

More like taking a page, or even an entire chapter right out of US history with relocating Native Americans to reservations. Which is exactly what it looks and sounds like to me.

This might be cause enough for Turkey to try and intervene on the behalf of Crimean Tatars.