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[XXSockXX]

Also listened a bit to the Moldovan representative to the UNSC, and apparently Putin is ramping up meddling around their territory as well.

I guess something like this is looming over all former Soviet states, with the exception of NATO members like the Baltic states. Ukraine is just the biggest piece of the cake.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

so that's what the 'language' thing was eh? Yeah that seems stupid. Trying to appease the right-wingers?

It is utter nonsense bloated by Russian propaganda, it was returning from 2011 language law to 1989 language law. It was totally fine for 20+ years but now it is

And Languages in Crimea is regulated by local laws, one of the advantages their current autonomy provides. So that law had no effect on them

[GrizzlyAdamz]

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We're talking about a very fluid situation with "fog of war" and all that entails, along with emotions running high.  If there were not popular support, there probably would have been skirmishes by now, regardless of any standing orders.

Popular support isn't the reason why there wasn't any fighting. The Ukrainian troops that are surrounded in their bases are prepared to defend themselves, but are ordered not to start anything.
The lack of accidents is a weak argument for 'they're welcoming them as liberators'.

[miljan]

@miljan

In what incident are you implying the USA did that? Was it recent?


Miljan, they were ordered to resist responding to russian 'provocations'. That means no shooting, that means stay in your base.
That does not mean they're happy jubilant russia-lovers.

What military desertion, aside from the unsuccessful naval chief?

Funny story: boki here is outraged when the west intervenes in countries that are slaughtering their own civilians with tanks and aircraft, and you cite 'unrest and pro-russian protests' as grounds for an invasion?

Nahh, no proofs of that (you will never find any proofs of it, or very little from CIA part in the past, coold war and crap like that).
And I am not talking about Uk soldiers, but people that live there. And also some soldiers, as there are more posts about it
The Ukrainian Air Force 240th tactical aviation brigade based near Sevastopol has switched allegiance to the authorities of Crimea
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1571805

Also dude, read very carefully what i write.  'unrest and pro-russian protests' is not ground for any invasion, but it is what it is, and it does not make this just a normal occupation because of it. You may like it or hate it, but the fact is they are pro russian regions and that makes it more easier for russia to move there

[XXSockXX]

so that's what the 'language' thing was eh? Yeah that seems stupid. Trying to appease the right-wingers?

It is utter nonsense bloated by Russian propaganda, it was returning from 2011 language law to 1989 language law. It was totally fine for 20+ years but now it is "banning" Russian language.

At least the timing was really stupid. That's why it was overturned by the Acting President. It didn't do anything, but it was a bad signal in a tense situation.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

a spokesman for the local authorities told Interfax.

So, Russian media is a source

Should I explain what it means?

[Sergarr]

Something tells me something will happen in two hours.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Something tells me something will happen in two hours.

Three hours. If war to start today it will begin in three hours. There are a lot of info on unofficial Russian ultimatum to our bases. Surrender or be assaulted after 5:00 local time. Russians denied that they issued that and that makes me worry even more because if Russian say something that usually means an opposite thing

[Sergarr]

If they're genre savvy enough they will either attack 1 hour before the ultimatum expires or several days after that.

[Knit tie]

Hopefully the war won't start. But if it does, UR, I want you and all other ukrainians to give us hell like you gave Hitler.

[Dutchling]

Interesting quote @ people doubting the EU will take actions:

"You guy are all so cynical. There is an important principle at stake here. I'm sure the entire EU is prepared to fight all the way down to the last American soldier to defend it."

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Also dude, read very carefully what i write.  'unrest and pro-russian protests' is not ground for any invasion, but it is what it is, and it does not make this just a normal occupation because of it. You may like it or hate it, but the fact is they are pro russian regions and that makes it more easier for russia to move there

Fair enough, wasn't so much disputing the russian crimeans supporting the occupation, so much as presenting the 'cold invasion' as evidence of massive popular support.
And also pointing out the hypocrisy of condemning the west's recent military activities and praising this one.

a spokesman for the local authorities told Interfax.

So, Russian media is a source

Should I explain what it means?

Yeah, seems to be what everyone cites, but I wouldn't dismiss it outright.

[Knit tie]

Interesting quote @ people doubting the EU will take actions:

"You guy are all so cynical. There is an important principle at stake here. I'm sure the entire EU is prepared to fight all the way down to the last American soldier to defend it."

The EU is always willing to act if it means siccing America at people. /joke

[Sergarr]

EU is apparently american now. What next? Australia will use Chinese soldiers to fight off the Indians?

[Dutchling]

Honestly I thought that was kind of the whole point of NATO. The US get's to be all warmongery without the Europeans bitching about it, and in return the Americans defend the Europeans.

Win-win situation really.