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[Max White]

If we keep the Sudetenland analogy, the problem is not a war now, but an emboldened Putin doing the some thing again, probably in the Baltic state.

Its simple, we kill the Putin!

Actually in all seriousness is there any prediction on what would happen if Putin was assassinated? I'm guessing Russia would be pissed the fuck off and shit would escalate even quicker.

[Dutchling]

My point is more "The parallels to World War Two are concerning and I hope they're meaningless so could you please prove my fears wrong?"

Your fears are wrong because the West is not going to intervene militarily.

The West not intervening might well be the worst case scenario, if you ignore nonsensical scenarios like Putin nuking the Ukraine.

[XXSockXX]

If we keep the Sudetenland analogy, the problem is not a war now, but an emboldened Putin doing the some thing again, probably in the Baltic state.

Forget the Sudetenland analogy, that was a different world back then.
The Baltic states are in the NATO. He's not gonna do that because he cannot win against NATO, due to the nuclear stand-off that would cause.
Ukraine is not in the NATO which unfortunately means that they are on their own in this as far as military help is concerned.

The West not intervening might well be the worst case scenario, if you ignore nonsensical scenarios like Putin nuking the Ukraine.

The West intervening is a nonsensical scenario too.

[Sheb]

He might make the bet that NATO won't fight back in say, Lithuania.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Its simple, we kill the Putin!

Actually in all seriousness is there any prediction on what would happen if Putin was assassinated? I'm guessing Russia would be pissed the fuck off and shit would escalate even quicker.

Doubt it, after a short internal struggle Russia will stabilize. Much larger Soviet Union had zero problems after Stalin's death

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Your fears are wrong because the West is not going to intervene militarily. Worst case scenario is Crimea becoming a part or a satellite of Russia and a civil war in Ukraine, possibly resulting in a break-up. Still I have my doubts how far Putin really wants to risk escalation, he needs Ukraine for his Eurasian Union project.

Escalation is why he is doing this. Eat or puppet Crimea, reinstall Yanukovych as a puppet over the rest of Ukraine, bring both into the EAU next year, hail Overlord Putin.

[miljan]

He might make the bet that NATO won't fight back in say, Lithuania.

No, he will go directly for USA 
In all seriously, the max thing russia can do now is to try take the other easter cities that have pro russian population in it. But more than that will not happen.

[XXSockXX]

He might make the bet that NATO won't fight back in say, Lithuania.

NATO is legally required to defend it's members. That's why we all went to adventure in Afghanistan, remember? Non-members and non-attack scenarios are something else, that's why not all of us went to adventure in Iraq.
If he stages something that can be interpreted as an attack on a NATO member, all hell breaks loose, so he is not going to. We can say against Putin what we want, but he is not an idiot or a fanatic.

Escalation is why he is doing this. Eat or puppet Crimea, reinstall Yanukovych as a puppet over the rest of Ukraine, bring both into the EAU next year, hail Overlord Putin.

Yanuk is out I'd say. Escalation, yes, but to what degree I wonder? He doesn't want a country that is torn apart by civil war or hates him for the most part, he wants a friendly regime in Ukraine for his EAU. He doesn't get that with war.

[Knit tie]

I have to say I find it highly amusing how all the russian troops in Ukraine are all wearing masks and just going around silently. Reminds me of some random hapless mooks waiting for an all-american sledgehammer-chinned action hero to show up and gun them down.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Lol


Also,

He might make the bet that NATO won't fight back in say, Lithuania.

NATO is legally required to defend it's members. That's why we all went to adventure in Afghanistan, remember? Non-members and non-attack scenarios are something else, that's why not all of us went to adventure in Iraq.
If he stages something that can be interpreted as an attack on a NATO member, all hell breaks loose, so he is not going to. We can say against Putin what we want, but he is not an idiot or a fanatic.

Escalation is why he is doing this. Eat or puppet Crimea, reinstall Yanukovych as a puppet over the rest of Ukraine, bring both into the EAU next year, hail Overlord Putin.

Yanuk is out I'd say. Escalation, yes, but to what degree I wonder? He doesn't want a country that is torn apart by civil war or hates him for the most part, he wants a friendly regime in Ukraine for his EAU. He doesn't get that with war.

This guy's got good stuff to say.


So, howabout russia agrees to some talks after this brinksmanship, pulls out of crimea on conditions, and in a roundabout way winds up trying to stabilize Ukraine to get a more favorable government & view out of it?
The civil war thing wouldn't help unless they go to take over the joint.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Spoiler: Russian special forces are funny (click to show/hide)

So, that guy demonstrated a label with his name and rank. But that's not the most funny part. He is found in a social network with further info about his unit

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Someone's getting sacked.

Also, huh, he's younger than I.

[Pnx]

Also, huh, he's younger than I.

I noticed that... he's about 9 months younger than I am in fact... Which is a pretty weird thought, though dealing with adults younger than me is something I suppose I should be getting used to by now.

I'm getting old.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

ikr?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Someone's getting sacked.

But he is a star now.  3500+ comments is not something an average guy gets