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[Knit tie]

To be fair, what happened in Chechnya was more like the government completely abandoning it de facto and letting various extremist and criminal groups run it for about three eyears, but I may be wrong.

Honestly, why can't Putin just fucking die already and take the autocratic USSR remnants with him?

[Aqizzar]

To be fair, what happened in Chechnya was more like the government completely abandoning it de facto and letting various extremist and criminal groups run it for about three eyears, but I may be wrong.

Well, that's how it started, with the Independent Republic, but that only lasted until about 2003.  The next four years were the Russian airforce bombing every structure left standing in the state until there was nothing moving in the rubble, then sending in the Gazprom engineers and the ex-ex-ex-president's son to run Grozny like a private palace.

Dagestan and Ossetia and such were less overt about the peace-through-carpet-bombing, but you get the idea.

[Knit tie]

To be fair, what happened in Chechnya was more like the government completely abandoning it de facto and letting various extremist and criminal groups run it for about three eyears, but I may be wrong.

Well, that's how it started, with the Independent Republic, but that only lasted until about 2003.  The next four years were the Russian airforce bombing every structure left standing in the state until there was nothing moving in the rubble, then sending in the Gazprom engineers and the ex-ex-ex-president's son to run Grozny like a private palace.

Dagestan and Ossetia and such were less overt about the peace-through-carpet-bombing, but you get the idea.

What part of Russia isn't run by one of Putin's cronies like his private palace? You should also check out Kadyrov's instagram, it's pure propaganda but totally hilarious.

[Sergarr]

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/Ukraine-declares-total-mobilization-3356/

[mcclay]

Well shit. Looks like theres gonna be a landwar in Asia/Eastern Europe.

[Max White]

Russia can't take on the world, and I don't seem them having many powerful allies at this point...

[Kicior]

Russia can't take on the world, and I don't seem them having many powerful allies at this point...

Does Ukraine have any allies at this point?

The EU is so utterly feckless it makes me want to cheer for Putin.  Putin's the only one showing any leadership or even competence.

The thing about the EU is, that reaction to every attempt to centralize power is HURR DURR CENTRALIZED EU WILL BE GERMAN/FRENCH PUPPET AND WE WILL LOOSE OUR INDEPENDENCE!
When the EU can't do jack shit everyone is like OMG EU U SUCK Y AREN'T YOU INTERVENING!
Not that I am a big fan of the EU but I think that people should make up their minds.

[Sinistar]

Interesting, if short, video about some seemingly more extreme elements of recent revolution.

As it has already been said in this thread, it is up to each person to decide which "side" they trust. But I think this particular video maintains a decent, neutral position.

Russia can't take on the world, and I don't seem them having many powerful allies at this point...

Does Ukraine have any allies at this point?

Well, apparently they did ask NATO for help recently...we'll see how that turns out.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Well, latest news is stuff's continuing to heat up eh?

That's depressing 'news' about the far right. (I just learned it)
Wonder how that'll shape up as the armed forces assemble in the east(ish).

[ChairmanPoo]

Well, apparently they did ask NATO for help recently...we'll see how that turns out.

Am I the only one getting a feeling of deja vu out of this?

To put it in another way:  Saakashvili did the same and it did not help him one damn bit.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Well, apparently they did ask NATO for help recently...we'll see how that turns out.

Am I the only one getting a feeling of deja vu out of this?

To put it in another way:  Saakashvili did the same and it did not help him one damn bit.

I'd not be that sure. No one of us knows what happened behind curtains and what initial plans of Russian aggression were. Maybe only firm position of NATO stopped total conquest of Georgia back in 2008

[Comrade P.]

You know what is the most popular quote in Russia describing current relationships of Ukraine and Europe?

- Ну шо, сынку, помогли тебе твои ляхи?
( - Where are your polish helpers now, son?)

[Avis-Mergulus]

Well, apparently they did ask NATO for help recently...we'll see how that turns out.

Am I the only one getting a feeling of deja vu out of this?

To put it in another way:  Saakashvili did the same and it did not help him one damn bit.

I'd not be that sure. No one of us knows what happened behind curtains and what initial plans of Russian aggression were. Maybe only firm position of NATO stopped total conquest of Georgia back in 2008

What total conquest of Georgia? Name me one reason which Russia might have for including Georgia into its territory, please. Other than "oh god Russian aggression and imperialism agragargh". Nobody in Georgia wanted to be part of Russia.
The Ossetians sure did not mind the fact that all the rockets stopped falling on their heads, though.

What happened after I logged off yesterday? I leave on a totally undramatic note, come back to find people comparing our totally benevolent Czar to a certain German dictator. What? I mean, I don't like him either, but this is kinda too much.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

What total conquest of Georgia? Name me one reason which Russia might have for including Georgia into its territory, please.

Installing Russian puppet. Like you try to do in Ukraine, demanding from us to return your puppet mass-murderer Yanuk back in his palace.

[Avis-Mergulus]

What total conquest of Georgia? Name me one reason which Russia might have for including Georgia into its territory, please.

Installing Russian puppet. Like you try to do in Ukraine, demanding from us to return your puppet mass-murderer Yanuk back in his palace.

Our puppet? Now I am offended. He kept most of your Nazi-loving pox face Yuschenko's policies, did not change shit, and actually supported the nationalist parties so he'd look good in comparison to them on the next elections. And we did not install him. The heart of democracy is that if your candidate does not get elected, you are not allowed to whine about it. Deal with it.

Also, nobody cares any more if he gets back or not. In my opinion, West Ukraine can elect the reincarnation of Bandera in blue trousers and an SS cap for all I care for president as long as my relatives and friends do not have to accept him. I'm like, the first to support Ukrainian identity and sovereignty - as long as it does not include anything I care about.

And since when is he a mass-murderer? An incompetent blabber, yes, but mass-murderer? He did not have the guts.