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[10ebbor10]

"his country" is not part of the quote, and it's therefore unconfirmed that he actually phrased it as such.

[Sheb]

I don't see anything wrong about saying "his country". Saying "Ukraine" all the time would be bad stylistically speaking.

burningpet: as we said, parties evolve. You'll notice they dropped the national-socialist name and symbol. And yeah, they played a role. Like a lots of other people, from anarchists and communists to nazis, including jews, ukrainians, (ethnic) russians, I even saw Ichkerians flags.

[Knit tie]

Yeah, technically we call it an invasion.

Basically, Yanukovitch refused to sign a deal with the EU under Russian pressure, that made a lot of people angry, they became angrier when Yanukovitch resorted to violence, then there was riots, awesome catapults, then a deal, then Yanukovitch ran away for no real reasons. Then Crimea started to protest and ask for annexation by Russia, and Russia moved a lots of troops in just after declaring a totally unrelated snap exercise.

Thanks a lot, comrade. It's good to see at least one fatcat running away from the opposition. Have you seen the photos of the runaway ukraininan prosecutor-general's estate, by the way? The info is extremely unreliable, but the photos are true.

As for the Crimea, I understand that Putin is a power-hoarder and all, but why would Crimea trying to get independence from Ukraine bother him?

EDIT: Or is he just trying to "conquer" some new territories?

[Sinistar]

Yeah, I thought that "his country" was probably taken out of context or it was me who misunderstood that quote.

Also, Obama is on.
He is deeply concerned.

edit: aaaaaaand that was it. Huh. Ok.

As for channel4 link - I find it interesting they concluded that yellow armbands sporting masked-men from few pages ago were in fact part of supposedly paramilitary wing related to Svoboda.
Unless they are thinking some OTHER yellow armbands people.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

He is deeply concerned.

How surprising....

[Sheb]

Yeah, Obama will keep talking, and he thing invading countries is bad m'kay. Useless.

Knit tie: Putin WANTS Crimea to become parts of Russia or, more likely, a protectorate like South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Transdniestra. He's not there to keep the protesters in check, he his arming them.

[Knit tie]

Yeah, Obama will keep talking, and he thing invading countries is bad m'kay. Useless.

Knit tie: Putin WANTS Crimea to become parts of Russia or, more likely, a protectorate like South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Transdniestra. He's not there to keep the protesters in check, he his arming them.

Typical self-obsessed tyrant behaviour. I hope it turns out as alright and bloodless as possible for the people there.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I've never thought I'd see Russia doing this kind of hostile acting so openly again, honestly.. I'm not the type to usually say this but this might get bad, real fast.

Crimean Tatars' leader Mustafa Cemilev is holding a meeting with Turkey's FM Davutoğlu in Kiev right now.

Turkey is one of countries I hope we can get help from.... They have their own interests in Black Sea and may dislike Russian Crimea a lot.

I'd wish to hope on Ukrainian army but the fact is that Ukrainian army is ruined by years of corruption, underfunding and destructive Russian influence. So it has no resources to do anything that can stop Russians

Unfortunately Turkey doesn't seem to have the willpower, even though they easily have the military to enforce some rule of goddamn law. Look at Syria. 

You're just tripping all over yourself to prove that grass is blue today.

As for channel4 link - I find it interesting they concluded that yellow armbands sporting masked-men from few pages ago were in fact part of supposedly paramilitary wing related to Svoboda.
Unless they are thinking some OTHER yellow armbands people.

The article is as confused as BP and explains why he feels the way he does. You may as well be reading stormwatch with the amount of 'information' included in that link.

Can we get back to their boots, people?

[GlyphGryph]

Does anyone understand what point burningpet is even trying to make? Because I've read all his posts and I... can't figure one out.

He just seems to generally want us to think more poorly of the revolution and the kicking out of this ogilarch dude I guess?

[Sheb]

I'm listening to the UN Ukrainian ambassador, apparently the Russian FM posted stuff on Facebook saying that the consulates have been given instructions to give Russian passports to former Berkut members. Ukraine asked for a meeting under article 7 of the Budapest Treaty, but unsurprisingly Russia refused.

EDIT: Mict, Georgia was only 6 years ago.

[scrdest]

Yeah, Obama will keep talking, and he thing invading countries is bad m'kay. Useless.

If you try to invade a sovereign country

You're gonna have a bad tiiiiime.

[10ebbor10]

((Anyway, we should really quit the Nazi argument. It's pointless, and will only result in a flame war and locked thread.))

Does anyone understand what point burningpet is even trying to make? Because I've read all his posts and I... can't figure one out.

He just seems to generally want us to think more poorly of the revolution and the kicking out of this ogilarch dude I guess?

I think the point is that the Revolutions are not always automatically good.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

EDIT: Or is he just trying to "conquer" some new territories?

I think the term here is re-conquer. 

I'm listening to the UN Ukrainian ambassador, apparently the Russian FM posted stuff on Facebook saying that the consulates have been given instructions to give Russian passports to former Berkut members. Ukraine asked for a meeting under article 7 of the Budapest Treaty, but unsurprisingly Russia refused.

EDIT: Mict, Georgia was only 6 years ago.

And yeah, but that wasn't as brazen, or so I thought. I never really followed what happened there, but they're basically a puppet anyways right?

[Mr. Strange]

So SHTF in Ukraine. I hope they didn't disarm those protestors yet...

Not sure if you've seen this already...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

from Simferopol, Crimea. Could find use for that catapult and some napalm...

[Sinistar]

On a less serious note:

The info is extremely unreliable, but the photos are true.

Picture 14. That sword at the bottom.

Was Yanukovych...a diligent LARPer? 
(or is that some actuall sword and I've just made an ass out of myself)
...
I'm going to bed now. I hope situation will end without further escalations. I really do.