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[Vector]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

just how did ukrainians and hungarians manage to get in any sort of negative situation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpatho-Ukraine
Some Hungarian nationalists do want that territory
But generally Hungary is one of neighbors we are friendly with, as well as Romania (but Romanian nationalist have claims on Ukrainian territory, too)
Plus Ukrainan troops did participate in suppressing 1956 (In the same time some remains of UPA fought on Hungarian side)
And I am speaking not more about Ukrainians vs Hungarians but Ukrainian far rights vs Hungarian far-rights. Far rights of neighboring countries usually not very friendly and call each other nazi and chauvinists

Now Right Sector is probably the enemy of the government, opposition, and all the foreign ministers.

We shall see. But I am rather sure that popular support is on the Right Sector side. I witnessed a huge rage in Ukrainian Internet over that "let Yanukovitch rule some more time" deal.

[XXSockXX]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

Well, some of the symbols and rhetoric in this video are what Neo-Nazis here are using and saying. I think fascism/nazism is universally accepted as right-wing.

[scrdest]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

Well, some of the symbols and rhetoric in this video are what Neo-Nazis here are using and saying. I think fascism/nazism is universally accepted as right-wing.

A bit artificially, by the logic of being against the left, mostly. This is a very messy affair and let's not get into that tangent.

[XXSockXX]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

Well, some of the symbols and rhetoric in this video are what Neo-Nazis here are using and saying. I think fascism/nazism is universally accepted as right-wing.

A bit artificially, by the logic of being against the left, mostly. This is a very messy affair and let's not get into that tangent.

Oh yeah, I really don't want to start another Nazi tangent here. But it's not artificial, it's after the classical definition of left and right after the French Revolution. It's just that in their extremes left and right look pretty much the same.

[scrdest]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

Well, some of the symbols and rhetoric in this video are what Neo-Nazis here are using and saying. I think fascism/nazism is universally accepted as right-wing.

A bit artificially, by the logic of being against the left, mostly. This is a very messy affair and let's not get into that tangent.

Oh yeah, I really don't want to start another Nazi tangent here. But it's not artificial, it's after the classical definition of left and right after the French Revolution. It's just that in their extremes left and right look pretty much the same.

I know the classical definition, and monarchists (and aristocracy in general) and Nazis weren't particularly fond of each other. Like I said, it's a messy, complicated thing that arose mostly because of a grossly outdated system of describing political beliefs, so let's end that tangent.

[XXSockXX]

Sure, let's end that tangent. Just wanted to say that - while messy - there is an internationally accepted classification.

Anyway - protesters on Maidan threaten to storm the parliament if the president doesn't resign until Saturday 10 o'clock.

[gogis]

I think the wings are opposite in the US and other parts of the world.

Well, some of the symbols and rhetoric in this video are what Neo-Nazis here are using and saying. I think fascism/nazism is universally accepted as right-wing.

A bit artificially, by the logic of being against the left, mostly. This is a very messy affair and let's not get into that tangent.

Oh yeah, I really don't want to start another Nazi tangent here. But it's not artificial, it's after the classical definition of left and right after the French Revolution. It's just that in their extremes left and right look pretty much the same.

Now I feel offended French revolution is best thing ever happened to western world. `Spectrum` and other shenanigans is not

[smirk]

protesters on Maidan threaten to storm the parliament if the president doesn't resign until Saturday 10 o'clock.

Wonder who/how many protesters are taking this position. Is it just the far right, or more general?

[XXSockXX]

protesters on Maidan threaten to storm the parliament if the president doesn't resign until Saturday 10 o'clock.

Wonder who/how many protesters are taking this position. Is it just the far right, or more general?

From what correspondents are saying it's pretty general. There are radicals on Maidan too, but the ordinary people also want Yanukovych gone.

[aenri]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpathian_Ruthenia

Wait, that's rightful Czechoslovak clay!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpathian_Ruthenia

Wait, that's rightful Czechoslovak clay!

What? You want to share newly annexed territory with pesky Czechs?

Speaking about annexations

Spoiler: The guy who did that is not true Polish (click to show/hide)

 

True one would demand Poland from the sea to the sea!



PS. Strange that I can joke in times like that... But I can

[XXSockXX]

True one would demand Poland from sea to sea!

Even radicals can be modest.  He did label central Ukraine as a Polish colony though, so maybe he is not that modest after all.

I have to correct what I said earlier: The ultimatum until Saturday was made by speakers of the Right Sector, who also doesn't want to disarm.
People on Maidan applauded that though and, from what correspondents are saying, agree that Yanukovych should step down.

[GlyphGryph]

Personally, if I was among the protestors, there would be NO WAY I would disarm until I'd seen actual stuff, actually done.

Giving up all of their trump cards, their momentum, and their fallbacks in exchange for what is, quite honestly, a fairly limited promise, followed by keeping the guy who previously lied to them and tried to suppress them in power, does NOT seem like a wise decision for anyone.

[Comrade P.]

Hehe. Looks like I'll have my summer holidays in Crimea without border-passing 

BTW, I heard something like "Berkut is fed up with all dat shit and leaves the parlament building". Sound like unproven bullshit, however.