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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #135 on: January 27, 2014, 07:09:45 am »

In symbolism news, The Pope released two doves for peace in Ukraine; the doves were promptly attacked by a crow and a seagull.
Two of the doves were attacked, but there was more than 2. Pretty funny though.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #136 on: January 27, 2014, 07:10:43 am »

In symbolism news, The Pope released two doves for peace in Ukraine; the doves were promptly attacked by a crow and a seagull.
Does anyone else find this at least a bit amusing?

I can't help but imagine him making a stern face and thinking something along the lines of 'Dick move, birds'
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #137 on: January 27, 2014, 01:50:17 pm »

We will have a new session in our parliament tomorrow.  Situation should become much more defined
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #138 on: January 27, 2014, 01:56:13 pm »

Ukrainian Ranger, are you aware of the fact that your side of the protests is led by a Pit Lord who is fighting Jeebus over the fate of the Ukraine?

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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #139 on: January 27, 2014, 02:04:24 pm »

Pit Lordmaidan 2014!
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #140 on: January 27, 2014, 02:06:20 pm »

Can someone translate that? I don't think machine translation has gotten to the point of being able to scan a picture for words...
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #141 on: January 27, 2014, 02:41:13 pm »

Can someone translate that? I don't think machine translation has gotten to the point of being able to scan a picture for words...

Red/Black: Banderovtsy (untranslateable in itself, except as 'Bandera's followers' after a certain Ukrainian Nationalist dude who is kinda liked in Ukraine for fighting for Ukrainian independence against (and IIRC for a period with) Nazis and Soviet Union, but he and the movement is pretty controversial (ethnic cleansing does that sometimes); the usage here is kinda like calling them Nazis except milder, or like insurgents with some pejorative connotations).

Blue/Yellow: The Nation of Ukraine (Yeeeah. Really subtle there.).

Saturated Orange: Administration Blockaded

Pale Orange: Policy of [something]. I don't really know the word.

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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #142 on: January 27, 2014, 02:53:04 pm »

I think the pale orange is, roughly, "Trying to Capture".
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #143 on: January 27, 2014, 02:54:34 pm »

Can someone translate that? I don't think machine translation has gotten to the point of being able to scan a picture for words...
Black and Red - Banderites
Blue and Yellow - the people
Orange - blockade of the administration buildings
Yellow - attempt of takeover

As you can see, this map was made by the opponents of Euromaidan.

In other news:
The parliament of the Crimean autonomy outlawed the nationalist party Svoboda on the territory of Crimea, urged the Ukrainian government to outlaw Svoboda in the rest of Ukraine and ordered regional police units to heighten up security measures at transport links between Crimea and the rest of Ukraine (link in Russian language).
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #144 on: January 27, 2014, 03:20:00 pm »

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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #145 on: January 27, 2014, 03:43:48 pm »

So what happens if they are outlawed? It could get nasty...
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #146 on: January 27, 2014, 04:07:01 pm »

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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #147 on: January 27, 2014, 04:09:17 pm »

So what happens if they are outlawed? It could get nasty...
IIRC, several opposition-controlled regional assemblies in Western Ukraine have already outlawed the Party of Regions and the Communist Party of Ukraine. The Crimean government's move is possibly a response to that.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #148 on: January 27, 2014, 04:31:58 pm »

Ukrainian Ranger, are you aware of the fact that your side of the protests is led by a Pit Lord who is fighting Jeebus over the fate of the Ukraine?

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What a subtle message being conveyed here.

So what happens if they are outlawed? It could get nasty...

Crimea is probably the most Russian oriented part of the Ukraine, so its not like they're affecting much. If Svoboda actually achieved power, they'd likely try to join Russia instead.

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« Reply #149 on: January 27, 2014, 04:46:44 pm »

I think Svoboda as a a party is a borderline political corpse now. I see no scenario in which Svoboda will get any real power.
Victory of the Government: Outlawed
Fast victory of the revolution : Moderates will have reason to vote for radicals, radicals will vote for heroes of revolution
Splitting country in two parts: Outlawed\Marginalized in the Eastern part, Lose elections in the Western part
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