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[10ebbor10]

Ukraine 2007 among many others.

[Guardian G.I.]

Ukraine 2007 among many others.

Well, the elections of 2007 didn't influence the general internal and foreign policies of Ukraine much - they remained liberal and pro-Western.
I'm talking about presidential elections, which decide which political course the country will pursue in the long run.

[Comrade P.]

Look who is saying hello to ukranians

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Look who is saying hello to ukranians

Do reactionary Russians just post on videos like that all the time, or are there just alot more than I realize?

"You're a Nazi and so was your father" says one "Keep your nose out of Russian and Ukrainian business" says another. I like how it's all about Putin and Russia to some, maybe proving that this was indeed a needed change in Ukraine to preserve their sovereignty.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Look who is saying hello to ukranians

There are popular joke in Ukraine - Revolution is won. T800 is with us
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Recent news: Ceasefire in Kiev has ended, Molotovs\rocks and rubber bullets flying around, no use of something more nasty reported

[Max White]

Now it will be interesting how this pans out. If this ends with a revolution to take the entire country then you still have the government loyalists hanging around, and that is going to end in internal conflicts for a long time to come. If you cut the nation in two then instead you have boarder conflicts between the two new nations for a long time to come.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Now it will be interesting how this pans out. If this ends with a revolution to take the entire country then you still have the government loyalists hanging around, and that is going to end in internal conflicts for a long time to come. If you cut the nation in two then instead you have boarder conflicts between the two new nations for a long time to come.

Nah. Don't think so. There are will no government loyalists should the army of mercenaries  fall

My opinion is rather harsh: As well as majority of population of Eastern Ukraine tolerate Yanukovich  they will tolerate just anyone;  NATO\Russian occupation forces, Martians,  Ctulthu, Resurrected Hitler. So they will tolerate Ukrainian Nationalists or whoever else who will come in power. Surely they will complain aloud but that's all.

As for dividing... I don't believe that it can be done with any kind of worldwide international recognition.  What can happen is Moldova\Georgia\Cyprus-like situation

[Sheb]

Don't they have ethnic russian nationalists?

[misko27]

Ie don't think Syria is an apt comparison. Syria is, first and foremost, a revolution, but it is also a regional war. Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia on one side; Saudi Arabia, extremist Sunnis, and the West on the other. Mostly Iran and Saudi Arabia.

In Ukraine, the government may fall, Putin may step in, or the protests may be crushed; but I don't think Syria is in the cards.

[Sheb]

And? We also have a revolution with two blocs each supporting one side like a good old proxy war. Except of course the EU will only send Strongly Worded Letters. Hey, who knows, Yanukovich may die of papercuts.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Don't they have ethnic russian nationalists?

If you mean Pan-Slavic Soviet nationalists imperialists. Sure. But I highly doubt that are ready to die for the empire. Baltic states have a lot of those, nevertheless it's calm there.
Surely, some small groups of extremists may apear, but widespread guerrilla? No way

If you talk about Russian far rights, most of them are either in the Right Sector throwing molotovs or patrolling home cities against "titushkas" or announced their neutrality. You see, Russian far rights don't like Putin at all. Many of persecuted Russians (and Belarusians, one of the guys killed is a Belarusian citizen) have moved in Ukraine for their own safety. I believe some of them envy us, they would prefer to see events like that in Moscow

If you talk about racists neo-nazis, those guys don't really care  about nationality\language, they care about white race supremacy and other stuff like that.  I can be sure that they'll prefer mixed nationalist\liberal government to any other but theirs or pure nationalists.

[10ebbor10]

Ukraine 2007 among many others.

Well, the elections of 2007 didn't influence the general internal and foreign policies of Ukraine much - they remained liberal and pro-Western.
I'm talking about presidential elections, which decide which political course the country will pursue in the long run.

Ow sorry. I meant Ukraine 2010. Presidential election between our dearest Viktor Yanukovich, and Julia Tymoshenko, and the election that ended the liberal/pro-western course.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

One of Ukrainian Jewish organizations asked our dear president to stop the blatant antisemitism among.... You think far-right protesters? Wrong!
Among  supporters our dear "Berkut" riot police. prooflink in Russian

That supporters  have very interesting "informational support for "Berkut"" Facebook page full of neo-nazi and antisemitic materials

Spoiler: eeeeeeeew (click to show/hide)

And The photo stream of that page. I think soon to be cleared

[Sonlirain]

That's not neo nazi material.
Antisemitic yes but if you compare people you don't like with nazis then you don't consider yourself a nazi.
Unless of course you think that antisemitism = nazism.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

That's not neo nazi material.
Antisemitic yes but if you compare people you don't like with nazis then you don't consider yourself a nazi.
Unless of course you think that antisemitism = nazism.

Yep you are right. But many Jews see the things exactly as antisemitism = nazism.  Easy to understand why