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[Helgoland]

Welp, time to get some Old Friends together, hustle up all the displaced Prussians and march back into Königsberg.
After all, there are still some ethnic germans left there last i looked and their german speaking is persecuted too, maybe the house of my great-grandfather still stands...

If we apply the same reasoning that's used with the Palestinians, roughly 100% of ethnically German Germans count as refugees by now. Me too! So yeah, let's take Könnigsberg (and give it back its proper name). The Poles might want their eastern territories back, too, and I'm sure some Polish people are being repressed...

What about Pomerania and Silesia? Danzig is Germany!

But Poland hasn't occupied Ukraine... Also, we kinda ceded all that land to Poland and Russia, and claiming that the Poles oppress their local German population would be a hard sell.

[nenjin]

Also, we kinda ceded all that land to Poland and Russia, and claiming that the Poles oppress their local German population would be a hard sell.

As Russia has shown though, you can completely ignore what your forebearers did and the treaties they signed when it serves your own political interests.

[Ghazkull]

yeah but the idea was more or less to show the russians an Eye for an Eye attitude and not going full on mental with reclaiming land. Just a bit "screw you russians if you can do it we can do it too and we can be even more annoying."

[Guardian G.I.]

By the way, guys, I found the original Russian article about the 'expulsion' of Crimean Tatars at RIA Novosti's website. According to that article, Rustam Temirgaliev said that the land required for building infrastructure in and around Simferopol has been seized by Crimean Tatar squatters. They will be asked to free the territory, he said. He didn't state anything about forcing all Crimean Tatars in the peninsula to relocate elsewhere.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

By the way, guys, I found the original Russian article about the 'expulsion' of Crimean Tatars at RIA Novosti's website. According to that article, Rustam Temirgaliev said that the land required for building infrastructure in and around Simferopol has been seized by Crimean Tatar squatters. They will be asked to free the territory, he said. He didn't state anything about forcing all Crimean Tatars in the peninsula to relocate elsewhere.

Come on, Guardian, don't play dumb. "Infrastructure land seized by Tatar squatters"? I know you can read between the lines here.

[Guardian G.I.]

By the way, guys, I found the original Russian article about the 'expulsion' of Crimean Tatars at RIA Novosti's website. According to that article, Rustam Temirgaliev said that the land required for building infrastructure in and around Simferopol has been seized by Crimean Tatar squatters. They will be asked to free the territory, he said. He didn't state anything about forcing all Crimean Tatars in the peninsula to relocate elsewhere.

Come on, Guardian, don't play dumb. "Infrastructure land seized by Tatar squatters"? I know you can read between the lines here.

If my shaky knowledge of ethnic composition of the population of Crimea is correct, Simferopol isn't the only place where Crimean Tatars live. Or do you assume that if at least one Crimean Tatar is forced to move for whatever reason, then sooner or later Russia will deport every one of them?

[Helgoland]

By the way, guys, I found the original Russian article about the 'expulsion' of Crimean Tatars at RIA Novosti's website. According to that article, Rustam Temirgaliev said that the land required for building infrastructure in and around Simferopol has been seized by Crimean Tatar squatters. They will be asked to free the territory, he said. He didn't state anything about forcing all Crimean Tatars in the peninsula to relocate elsewhere.

Come on, Guardian, don't play dumb. "Infrastructure land seized by Tatar squatters"? I know you can read between the lines here.

If my shaky knowledge of ethnic composition of the population of Crimea is correct, Simferopol isn't the only place where Crimean Tatars live. Or do you assume that if at least one Crimean Tatar is forced to move for whatever reason, then sooner or later Russia will deport every one of them?

If Russia is going to start deportations, they have to begin somewhere. Not that it's sure that they will, but this shows a lack of tact at least as bad as that of the Ukrainian parliament with that language law.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

By the way, guys, I found the original Russian article about the 'expulsion' of Crimean Tatars at RIA Novosti's website. According to that article, Rustam Temirgaliev said that the land required for building infrastructure in and around Simferopol has been seized by Crimean Tatar squatters. They will be asked to free the territory, he said. He didn't state anything about forcing all Crimean Tatars in the peninsula to relocate elsewhere.

Come on, Guardian, don't play dumb. "Infrastructure land seized by Tatar squatters"? I know you can read between the lines here.

If my shaky knowledge of ethnic composition of the population of Crimea is correct, Simferopol isn't the only place where Crimean Tatars live. Or do you assume that if at least one Crimean Tatar is forced to move for whatever reason, then sooner or later Russia will deport every one of them?

Point One: "Squatters" being on land that "isn't theirs" is a pretty clear attempt to justify mass deportations, and I vaguely recall that it might have been used before, though dammed if I can't remember where.

Point Two: This is directed at the Tatars. Are you assuming that only the Tatars are squatting in Simferopol, if there is indeed such a problem?

Point Three: Russia kind of has a history when it comes to forced relocation in territories recently acquired through conquest.

[Sergarr]

Do you think they will all be deported through boats? There's not a land border between Crimea and Russia... yet.

[scriver]

I'm a bit surprised to see such bold moves (or still just statements at this time I suppose?) from the new government so soon.

By the way, is there anything else to this resettlement, like monetary embursenent if another area given to them that they can actually own legally, or is it just a straight deportation?

Given the military situation, I don't think Turkey would be able to enter unopposed, like how Russia went in...

Of course, I guess we can continue debating the validity of an unopposed and bloodless entry by 'armed self defense units who are obviously not Turks'.

Well, if one thinks the Russian actions to "protect Russians" were valid, then certainly a completely hypothetical Turkish invasion (that I agree won't happen) would be even more valid as it seems like the Crimtars are coming under actual oppression.

It's funny, I would've actually supported the Crim-Russians' right to self-determination of governing (the history as a particularly independent province just makes their case even more valid) if Russia hadn't invaded and the vote hadn't appeared so rushed and faked.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Do you think they will all be deported through boats? There's not a land border between Crimea and Russia... yet.

They'll not deport them from Crimea. That is too much. They'll deport them to useless parts of Crimea

[Sheb]

Lot of us would have.

[Dutchling]

So apparently the sanctions are working.

[Sergarr]

So apparently the sanctions are working.

Personally I think they're a joke. Come on, Russia invades and you don't even declare a partial embargo?

[Dutchling]

Well, they're throwing a hissy fit, so it's doing something