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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #180 on: January 28, 2014, 04:36:07 pm »

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Historically speaking, not ethnically.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #181 on: January 29, 2014, 08:30:12 am »

Crimea is basically Russian now in terms of ethnicity, not so much Tartar. Anyhow, once you get into "historical ethnicity", especially with the Ukraine, then things get complicated, since a lot of modern Ukrainian land was claimed by Soviet-Ukrainians from other countries. Crimea was originally Tartar/Turkish but most of them are long gone and it is basically Russian now.

They aren't long gone. Unless you consider WW2 so long ago that it doesn't really matter, of course. Maybe consider that next time there's a Veteran's Day parade in the USA.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #182 on: January 29, 2014, 08:33:34 am »

Anyway, the parliament is now considering amnesty for everyone who got involved with the protests.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #183 on: January 29, 2014, 08:36:37 am »

If I was a protestor I wouldn't stop. The government is so weakened now they're basically giving them anything they can besides holding an election, keep going and the day will be won by the protestors.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #184 on: January 29, 2014, 05:29:50 pm »

So they admitted that they are holding hostages by passing the new "amnesty" law. If protesters pack and go home then they'll release arrested. *facepalm*

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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #185 on: January 30, 2014, 12:34:08 pm »

So Yanukovych has called in sick.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #186 on: January 30, 2014, 02:18:22 pm »

That is worrisome news. When shit is about to hit the fan - He is sick\on vocation\has very important visit to some other country
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #187 on: January 30, 2014, 03:09:43 pm »

I found that quite funny when I heard it. I was just imagining Gaddafi calling in sick when the rebels were at his door in Sirte.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #188 on: January 30, 2014, 03:58:50 pm »

"No, sorry, I've been having this terrible headache all day, and I'm really not well enough to participate in a historical moment. Could we work out something tomorrow, perhaps? If it's all right with you, of course."
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #189 on: January 30, 2014, 04:46:15 pm »

Well, you wouldn't hang someone who has a mild case of the sniffles, right?

Seriously though, the media here interpret the general situation as Yanukovych increasingly losing control, with several powerful oligarchs withdrawing their support and siding with the protesters.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #190 on: January 30, 2014, 04:57:17 pm »

Interestingly, the one lesson we can take from this revolution/these protests is that violence can sometimes help very much.

Not always, though. And the same applies to the government, sadly.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #191 on: January 30, 2014, 05:00:04 pm »

Heard in news somewhere that bodyguard's prices grew in Ukraine up to 4000$ per hour, which is twice more than usual.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #192 on: January 30, 2014, 05:01:26 pm »

$4000 per hour? Wot?

...wot?

Who the hell can even pay that much? Oligarchs?
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #193 on: January 30, 2014, 05:03:08 pm »

Yep. And right now budyguard business is gioing up the hill right now. Guess why.
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Re: Events in Ukraine
« Reply #194 on: January 30, 2014, 05:03:19 pm »

I knew I should've gotten into that gig.
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