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Author Topic: Postmodernism vs Bay12 - Deathmatch 2014. aka feminist programming languages  (Read 29229 times)

Max White

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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #240 on: February 03, 2014, 04:10:12 pm »

M is like the little brother who follows everybody else when they go out to build a club house. He goes from person to person, asking if he can help, and sometimes they indulge him by getting him to hold a nail or pass that saw, but in the end it is S, T and E that build the damn club house... Later on when they get back home and their parents ask them what they did for the day, M tells them about how he did all the really important stuff out of a juvenile sense of self worth, while E is already thinking about improvements to be made, T is pulling splinters from their fingers ready for more work tomorrow, and S has gone out to obtain some more wood and nails to build the damn thing!

In case you were wondering, the club house is society, and the wood is human knowledge.

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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #241 on: February 03, 2014, 05:05:24 pm »

M is like the little brother who follows everybody else when they go out to build a club house. He goes from person to person, asking if he can help, and sometimes they indulge him by getting him to hold a nail or pass that saw, but in the end it is S, T and E that build the damn club house... Later on when they get back home and their parents ask them what they did for the day, M tells them about how he did all the really important stuff out of a juvenile sense of self worth, while E is already thinking about improvements to be made, T is pulling splinters from their fingers ready for more work tomorrow, and S has gone out to obtain some more wood and nails to build the damn thing!

In case you were wondering, the club house is society, and the wood is human knowledge.

I think you could freely swap S,T,E and M and it would still make sense.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #242 on: February 04, 2014, 01:02:01 pm »

M is like the little brother who follows everybody else when they go out to build a club house. He goes from person to person, asking if he can help, and sometimes they indulge him by getting him to hold a nail or pass that saw, but in the end it is S, T and E that build the damn club house... Later on when they get back home and their parents ask them what they did for the day, M tells them about how he did all the really important stuff out of a juvenile sense of self worth, while E is already thinking about improvements to be made, T is pulling splinters from their fingers ready for more work tomorrow, and S has gone out to obtain some more wood and nails to build the damn thing!

In case you were wondering, the club house is society, and the wood is human knowledge.

I think you could freely swap S,T,E and M and it would still make sense.
OK, us STEM people/STEM people-in-training should stop arguing about who's the best and agree that we're all better than the Liberal Arts people.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #244 on: February 04, 2014, 02:27:33 pm »

The STEM arguments will continue until morale improves.
They forgot about Economics, which is just applied Sociology. And, while I'm at it, Business is just applied Economics.

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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #245 on: February 04, 2014, 03:38:39 pm »

Whoa whoa whoa - economics is clearly the bastard love-child of mathematics, greed and human nature!
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #246 on: February 04, 2014, 03:43:45 pm »

Where does game theory fit in?
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #247 on: February 04, 2014, 03:45:24 pm »

Right next to Business - it's applied Economics.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #248 on: February 04, 2014, 03:48:37 pm »

Nope - lesser field of mathematics, which we whore out when we need more booze. Statistics usually looks after it.
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« Reply #249 on: February 04, 2014, 03:50:25 pm »

But game theory is all about creating rules to try to get behavior out of people. Sounds an awful lot like a subset of economics to me.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #250 on: February 04, 2014, 04:12:30 pm »

But game theory is all about creating rules to try to get behavior out of people. Sounds an awful lot like a subset of economics to me.

Game Theory is a result of a one-night stand between Math and Economics.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #251 on: February 04, 2014, 11:19:22 pm »

The discussion about STEM is very stupid to my uninformed opinion. Taking any of them away renders all completely and utterly purposeless. Moreso then Liberal arts Majors by far, I must add. Regardless of who is simply a bottle-neck and who is the lion share, none of them can be completely extracted from the others without losing all usefulness.

And if it's useless, you lose funding and can't get a job. Mathematics is just applied employment. Economics is applied employment. Sociology is applied employment. No one makes theories if you are starving in the streets.

And thus everything is applied being alive. Even biology; you can't study biology without being alive. And sentience.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #252 on: February 04, 2014, 11:24:06 pm »

I would say maths and economics have a slightly closer relationship than one night stands... Think of them as friends with benefits.

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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #253 on: February 04, 2014, 11:29:39 pm »

So where does political science fit in this hierarchy of snobbery? Can someone tell me what shade of untermensch I am?

I didn't do it just to see the rage from people insisting that it isn't a real science. I swear.
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Re: Towards feminist programming languages
« Reply #254 on: February 04, 2014, 11:32:11 pm »

I would say maths and economics have a slightly closer relationship than one night stands... Think of them as friends with benefits.

Yeah, but maths gets no benefit from the relationship. It's more like a parasitic friendship, where one friend exploits the other and likes to name-drop because the exploited friend has a better reputation. Like Economics uses Maths to help pull the girls because Maths is smarter, more refined, whiter teeth, but when it comes time to make a move he shoves Maths aside and takes the girl for himself, leaving Maths a dried up husk on the floor who's going home alone, again.
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