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[Max White]

Or they just fire your ass in the first week that you try that shit...

[Putnam]

Ease into it

Actually, should I have put one of those in there? Here, have a couple, one for that post up there and one for later just in case you think I need it:

[wierd]

Ahh, a fellow programming sadist.

Hello.

(This is a joke btw.)

[lemon10]

Writing code like that is how you keep a job.

That sir, is a evil evil thing.

[Aqizzar]

You can't have a 3rd option, and still use a boolean.

True, false, and null.  Which would be... kinda appropriate, provided your table design allows it.

Actually that is very language specific. Nullable booleans are a feature of more higher level languages typical these days, but there was a point in the past where they didn't real. Your boolean is actually a pointer to a boolean, and that boolean may only be true of false, but the pointer may be null.

Actually, I was referring specifically to the database concept, since a database entry is essentially a pointer.  In any version of SQL going back to at least the early 90s, you could define a boolean field as nullable which still allocates memory for the value, but just doesn't store anything there except the null itself.  A boolean might be a single byte in programming terms, but for any data storage system that's existed since the days of physical switches a boolean consists of both the byte and the address.

Just for clarity of course.

And I looked into my job's database today.  Turns out we store gender on multiple tables, in some cases as a male/female boolean, in others as a single character, in others as a six-character string.  If there is one programming sin greater than poor extensibility, it's inconsistent standards.

[Max White]

Actually, I was referring specifically to the database concept, since a database entry is essentially a pointer.  In any version of SQL going back to at least the early 90s, you could define a boolean field as nullable which still allocates memory for the value, but just doesn't store anything there except the null itself.  A boolean might be a single byte in programming terms, but for any data storage system that's existed since the days of physical switches a boolean consists of both the byte and the address.

Just for clarity of course.

Well if we are talking about our database then ok, different paradigm, different rules. GOD DARN RELATIONAL LOGIC!

And I looked into my job's database today.  Turns out we store gender on multiple tables, in some cases as a male/female boolean, in others as a single character, in others as a six-character string.  If there is one programming sin greater than poor extensibility, it's inconsistent standards.

Excuse me while I throw up all over the everything.
Good god man, I don't even know how! I just don't know how...

[tahujdt]

I want to see this idea applied to science, particularly chemistry.

How dare you say that ions can only form ionic bonds of they have equally opposite charges?!?!? Ions should be able to bond even if they are both positive!

It would not surprise me to learn of some feminist claiming that Mary Curie's experiments were the only real science because it was the only science done by a woman. She's not even close to the only female scientist, but she's the only one a feminist would probably think of.

[Tiruin]

So I skipped from the OP.

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'Feminist' programming language?
Erh?
I...don't understand this, to be honest. Either the adjective or..the relevance to the programming language. Terminology?

[DJ]

It's just that people are catching on to the fact that there's lots of folks out there who'll swallow any old BS if you slap the word feminist in front of it. Can't wait for Starbucks to start advertising feminist mocaccinos.

[Tiruin]

...That doesn't help explain this at all. >_>

[DJ]

That might be because it *doesn't* make any sense.

[Tiruin]

Well, there's got to be a reaosn why someone would put 'feminism' > programming languages. I..am really unsure on how women's rights relates to programming languages, or the usual characteristics attributed to the, in a language to..erh. I really don't get it.

What's with the abstractions in the language?

[Frumple]

It would not surprise me to learn of some feminist claiming that Mary Curie's experiments were the only real science because it was the only science done by a woman. She's not even close to the only female scientist, but she's the only one a feminist would probably think of.

... actually, when it comes up in regard to the harder sciences it's usually to point out where/how gender bias has royally fucked up the scientific process. At least that's how I've seen feminist scientific critiques tend to play out. Which is something has happened quite a few times. Actually had a teacher that had worked with Elisabeth Lloyd a little, during his graduate studies, on "The Case of the Female Orgasm", which was more or less about exactly that (bias infecting the scientific process) in relation to evolutionary science.

Which... yeah. Bias causes problems in science, gender bias or otherwise. Amazing, right?

[scrdest]

Which... yeah. Bias causes problems in science, gender bias or otherwise. Amazing, right?

I am thoroughly shocked by this conclusion. THIS CANNOT BE!

[AlleeCat]

What makes a programming language patriarchal? Like up until now I thought feminism was just, like, I don't know, supposed to be about equalizing genders and getting rid of the patriarchy in modern society, but I've skimmed through most of what she's saying and I can't find any examples of why a feminist programming language would be necessary to equalize genders in computer science.
Let me describe feminism as I understand it.
1. Most feminists do not hate men. The truth is we live in a male dominated society (patriarchy) and while women do a have a few privileges that men don't, men have far more of a leg up in the world.
2. Most feminists don't want women to have any more rights than men do.
3. Feminism is about creating a more gender-equal society by mainly focusing on women's rights.