THE REPLYThere is something to be said against Leafsnail here - he randomly claimed that that specific item was censored and no others were and then used it as "evidence" - but it's not actually about anything you keep saying. Rather than attacking the argument, you attack the way it is presented. What is causing your irrational attack on Leafsnail?
Irrational is a nice adjective. Spices up the feeling on reading it.
I attacked the way it was presented as Leafsnail fails to say, as a generality, how that is a detriment--rather in the
lack of words, and by reading his statement as is, he follows it up as something to define why NQT was flailing about, and as a following conclusion, presented it in a bad light.
You seem to be subtly leaking your own opinion by calling this as irrational instead of questioning the point in itself--rather than give your own opinion, you hide it in these tiny adjectives. I am curious.
Now you're arguing that defending someone who has more against him than the guy you want lynched is just fine. I'll ask it again, since you still haven't given a reason: Why are you defending RangerCado?
As stated, concluding before reason. It seems that in your process of using the word 'defending', it takes a tone of malice.
Could you state why it speaks to me as somewhat malevolent? The usage of the term, 'defending'.
Evidence for this please? Not that I doubt that something similar happened, but I want to see the actual comments to see how it actually was.
...You broke the link. Anyway- the evidence lies in metaknowledge. I cannot link similar cases due to me not remembering any, though I do remember that being one of Toaster's metapoints. He relies on reaction tells more often than not, yet as 4maskwolf says and which I turn to my own words: he fails to relate it to Reality.
That, and my reaction to him was, or seems aggressive due to one point: He doesn't ask me
why I act like that. He goes off and spouts imperatives in a faux-accusatory manner. While such a case I can detect, it does me no good
emotinally to see such a person stoop to concluding before looking back at anything.
The link in question debunks his accusatory statement, if you read.
See above - It makes sense to lynch RangerCado first if we think that being a Summoner means scum, even if Leafsnail is somewhat suspicious. Also, why do you trust Cado? I'd guess that he was simply confused by not knowing what his wincon was and the Summoner team had him test things by revealing himself. He has been open about his role and alignment, but so have most people here (including the other Evil people). What is it that lets you trust RangerCado so much? Right now, I'd vote for you if I wasn't already voting for Ranger, Tiruin.
Ahh, the best part.
Let me pull out certain words from here that makes me feel like you are tied with Leafsnail.
> "Even if Leafsnail is somewhat suspicious" -- So what? Have you backing for why you prefer Cado? Yea, I see it. You don't have to restate it. You want Cado lynched to be sure of what purpose exists--yet I stand on why I want either Leafsnail or you lynched to prove that Evil =/= Meteor Summoner. I understand your point in wishing to prove that Meteor Summoner = bad or whatever, but it is explicitly stated in the OP that Meteor Summoner is a BAD THING.
Cue looking up to why I said so.
> "Also" - Seguing onto another tangent I see? 'Trust' is a nice word to follow it. I do not trust Cado. I was paranoid--meaning believing something else--that he had an ulterior motive to claiming.
Background. > "What is it that lets you trust RangerCado so much?" *points at Mr. Cheese*
Hello?
> "Right now, I'd vote for you if I wasn't already voting for Ranger, Tiruin." Aww such a nice threat! <3
You lack in stating
why, though. Your threats are baseless. Pressure vote ahoy? C'mon, tell me.
Yeah I'm cynical here.
This is literally the only valid point you have, and it's something that needs more evidence to make a claim - Leafsnail could have insider knowledge, or he could just be mistaken on the nature of the game. However, you've been doing the "obsessively trying to get Leafsnail lynched/refusing to let the discussion focus on RangerCado" for a LONG time before that. You arguments are barely rational anymore, and you seem to be getting desperate as we get closer to getting RangerCado lynched.
And here comes in TDS' meta. One who shouts much and accuses, yet does not see the backing that I have done with my case. Do you read what I wrote? Aye, 'tis barely rational
to you yet I want to see opinions for my mind to feast on, not you shooting blanks.
Let me start. Tiruin's arguments are barely rational because...?
Tiruin is desperate when she did...
Leafsnail could have...
There you go.
Now tell me why you're 'defending' Leafsnail?
Now do you argue that I am not justified by calling you out on your circular logic and/or acting on recent note rather than what was stated before? I feel like I am. Though you may have just forgotten.
Mr. Cheese: Are you passing on that protect-ability I gave you? To whom and why? Do you believe this 'greed' thing Wuba said before (vaguely hinted) is a real mechanic?
Nerjin: Can we state out loud who we pass items to?