@Leafsnail: The matters are that how you made your case against NQT made the whole day into a turntable game. You out him as scum--however I have ideas to contradict otherwise. That, and scum can nightkill (hinted in context by 'healing after an attack occurs in that ability I gave to Mr. Cheese). I could say you're lying-given that there's a direct game mechanic to these 'moral abstract concepts' of Evil and such, but I could also say that the Mafia team does not directly know each other and does not, really, have a quicktopic.
I still don't see how any of this remotely constitutes a case against me. Your first point seems to be "You called NQT scum, but I think NQT is town". Ok, why do you think NQT is town (in spite of the fact that his claim makes absolutely no sense)? Why does NQT being town make me scum?
Your "scum can nightkill" point is incredibly weak. Even non-bastard games can have useless roles (eg, the presence of a Mafia Ninja does not guarantee that the town has a tracker), and even if we assume "roles have to be useful" it doesn't follow that evil people can kill or that NQT cannot convert people. The protection could protect someone from an advanced doppelganger attack, for instance. But even if we accept that scum can nightkill I don't see how that changes anything.
I do not understand your last point at all. How do you know there's a "direct game mechanic to these 'moral abstract concepts' of Evil and such", and how does that contradict what I've said? The second part of that sentence seems to just be echoing what I've claimed so I don't see what that has to do with anything.
Again, I simply cannot grasp what you are saying due to the way you're structuring your arguments. Can you please summarize it in the form:
Point: A clear explanation of what you're accusing me of, and why it makes me scum or a better lynch candidate than NQT
Explanation: The reasoning and evidence that leads up to the accusation you make in the Point section
As it is all I can see is a jumbled mix of points and evidence with no supporting argumentation. I can't respond to it without guessing what your argument is, and since I clearly can't do that accurately I need you to make your logic clearer.
> Ont hose links: I do like 20 questions, and yeah-the scummiest detail I pick from NQT is he's not answering much, however I defend him with the use of Occam's Razor. If an Innocent Child can be scum, then how bastardly is it to insert a mechanic that designs the whole matter into moral terminology? Yeah, he got the note of 'townie' in his PM. But the fact is-he's saying it publicly.
I find the use of Occam's Razor interesting. Our options:
- NQT has an ultra-complicated town role which has incredibly important knowledge that would cause catastrophic damage if it fell into the scum's hands, but this is only true on day one for no apparent reason. Also if his role is lynched on day one it would also be catastrophic for town, but this wouldn't be the case on day two. These two things aren't actually linked because apparently the information falling into scum's hands could be worse than NQT being lynched.
- NQT is scum and is desperately trying to buy himself time because being lynched would make him lose
The first requires a bunch of strange assumptions and thus loses to Occam's razor.
Apart from it would mean his role is a lot more complicated than mine (and, as far as I can tell, a lot more complicated than anyone else who has claimed), and I find that extremely suspicious. Again, look up old bastard games like Bellsounder - townies had roles that could be described in a single sentence, the scum had a role that required several paragraphs and a fair bit of back-and-forth with the mod to explain. I really don't buy that there'd be one townie with a far more complicated role than everyone else.
Yes, making an apparent confirmed townie scum is a bastard twist. No, it is not outside the stated rules of this
bastard game: all webadict promised was that he wouldn't lie, not that he wouldn't be misleading. He never said "NQT is town" or "you are looking for evil players" or "NQT is not a good person to lynch" or "All people who are 'not-evil' have the same alignment" (in fact by calling NQT Good I think he basically said the opposite - that multiple subsets within the not-evil group exist, and also that any other Good player should expect to be told they're Good, like NQT was).
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