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[peridot]

I read the thread on secure beekeeping, and it addresses half the problem. You're best off with 40 hives and one beekeeper, you put each hive adjacent to an "outdoor" square (e.g. opened to the sky then roofed over with glass), and you DON'T MOD THE BEES TO BE LETHAL. Ahem. You can also allow only half of the hives to ever be harvested, so that the other half ensure that there are always hives ready to be split. But then your idiot beekeeper will consistently go outside and collect bees from hives in the wild rather than the two-steps-away indoor hive just waiting to be split. I tried putting my beekeeper in his own military squad (in full steel armor, for good measure and in expectation of failure) and burrowing him indoors. To no avail; three beekeepers in a row were caught somewhere off in la-la land when an ambush arrived. I shudder to think what it would be like somewhere with evil weather.  So: is it possible to keep beekeepers from going off chasing wild hives? All I can think of is to pave over all outdoor hives and hope no new ones arrive.

[wierd]

Wild hives only appear on [soil] type floors. If you floor them all over outside you won't have any outside to worry about.

However, it's been my experience that dwarves will pick a splittable tame hive first if it is closer.

[Beast Tamer]

Wild hives only appear on [soil] type floors. If you floor them all over outside you won't have any outside to worry about.

Then it appears I have another reason pave the entire map.

[ShadowHammer]

Or you could just lock him in, and have a chute for giving him stuff, and another chute for him outputting honey products.

[Kumquat]

Or you could just lock him in, and have a chute for giving him stuff, and another chute for him outputting honey products.

That doesn't work. You just get an infinity of "can't find path" spam, I think. Either that or the beekeeper just stands in place until getting call-of-natured (hungry, thirsty, sleepy).

[Sutremaine]

I have 40 hives, 10 of which are set to not be gathered. This is about what you need in order to always have a splittable tame hive ready, though if I wanted to ensure that a splittable tame hive was always available I'd go for 12 or maybe 15 'no gather' hives.

[peridot]

I have 40 hives, 10 of which are set to not be gathered. This is about what you need in order to always have a splittable tame hive ready, though if I wanted to ensure that a splittable tame hive was always available I'd go for 12 or maybe 15 'no gather' hives.

Yeah, I had eighteen of thirty-six set to no-gather, and there never seemed to be a shortage of splittable tame hives. But my beekeepers insisted on going out and getting slaughtered.

[Aseaheru]

BURROWS.

Ahem, burrows.

[ShadowHammer]

BURROWS.

Ahem, burrows.

If this

Or you could just lock him in, and have a chute for giving him stuff, and another chute for him outputting honey products.

That doesn't work. You just get an infinity of "can't find path" spam, I think. Either that or the beekeeper just stands in place until getting call-of-natured (hungry, thirsty, sleepy).

Is true then it would presumably be the same for burrows.

[wierd]

Correct. Bee keeping labor for "Install live bees" does not obey burrow restriction, because items DO NOT LOCK FROM TASK. (That is WHAT CAUSES the bee keeper bug! LOL!)

You can still prevent wild hives from forming by flooring over the whole embark.

[AWellTrainedFerret]

Just a heads up on flooring over the entire embark: there is a longstanding bug in which any vermin colony, including hives can also spawn over water.
Depending on which would be more work, you could also attempt to maintain so many safe hives that it prevents outside hives from spawning because there is a set # of vermin colonies that can exist at any one time.
You can also semi-control where they spawn by destroying any hives that you don't want outside, and hope they spawn somewhere safe.

[blue sam3]

You could just flood the world with magma once a season or so, to clean things up.

[Aseaheru]

Or cast the world.

[Urist McVoyager]

Any idea what that limit is?

[Aseaheru]

For what?