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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind  (Read 53292 times)

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #75 on: January 18, 2014, 10:34:47 am »

The manual is your friend in this case. It should tell you exactly how to pickpocket and such.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2014, 10:46:00 am »

Honestly, it's probably easier to get some high Speechcraft and Taunt them. They'll attack you, the wrath of the guards will descend upon them instead, and you can loot their corpse.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2014, 10:47:22 am »

Yup. Time to play Morrowind again. Or continue my current char.

I think my most recent quest was finding out where the Dwarfs are...
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #78 on: January 18, 2014, 10:55:15 am »

As far as I can tell with any of the Bethesda games, pickpocketing/stealth in general is very much an all-or-nothing skill. Be prepared to spend a long time working on it to get a reasonable success or sneak rate, and if they're using the early model of it that made it to Fallout: NV, you'll be sacrificing a lot for light armor just to get that opening crit.

I don't recall having much success with primary magic or primary archer characters in Morrowind for various reasons, and finickyness of stealth is one of the big ones.

Yup. Time to play Morrowind again. Or continue my current char.

I think my most recent quest was finding out where the Dwarfs are...

I feel the same way every time someone mentions this game, but then I think of all the hours I'd spend on it and have stayed strong so far.

Best of luck to you on that... I understand that the information *is* in the game somewhere, but I never, ever found it myself and I looked everywhere. I had to use the wiki =(
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2014, 11:27:05 am »

Well the game is still a little bit laggy, but not too bad, and I have to admit, it's really nice to be able to actually see what's in the distance. I didn't realize how restricted the view was until it was changed. I might fiddle with it a bit more to get it a bit faster, but it's within reason now.

I also noticed that when I harvest plants now, there is a visible change to show what I did. Mushrooms and flowers disappear, berries vanish from bushes... Very nice.

I guess I won't bother with pickpocketing. I do want to get into better lockpicking though. I leveled up security a lot of times and bought a bunch of lockpicks. I was relieved to find that people don't get mad when they see you picking a lock right in front of them, which is a bit odd, but without that I'd never be able to pick any locks because they're rarely out of view. How do you level sneak, anyway? Sneaking around doesn't seem to give it any experience.

Also, I woke up feeling crummy this morning, and it's only gotten worse over the course of the day. It seems that I have caught the flu. So I'll probably be spending a lot of time playing Morrowind now, instead of cleaning and doing work like I planned for this weekend...

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #80 on: January 18, 2014, 11:30:01 am »

Well the game is still a little bit laggy, but not too bad, and I have to admit, it's really nice to be able to actually see what's in the distance. I didn't realize how restricted the view was until it was changed. I might fiddle with it a bit more to get it a bit faster, but it's within reason now.

I also noticed that when I harvest plants now, there is a visible change to show what I did. Mushrooms and flowers disappear, berries vanish from bushes... Very nice.

I guess I won't bother with pickpocketing. I do want to get into better lockpicking though. I leveled up security a lot of times and bought a bunch of lockpicks. I was relieved to find that people don't get mad when they see you picking a lock right in front of them, which is a bit odd, but without that I'd never be able to pick any locks because they're rarely out of view. How do you level sneak, anyway? Sneaking around doesn't seem to give it any experience.

Also, I woke up feeling crummy this morning, and it's only gotten worse over the course of the day. It seems that I have caught the flu. So I'll probably be spending a lot of time playing Morrowind now, instead of cleaning and doing work like I planned for this weekend...
Sneaking is leveled up by sneaking around without anyone seeing you. Which is much easier to determine in the later games, when you have an actual visibility meter.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #81 on: January 18, 2014, 12:31:36 pm »

Sappho: About the disposing of corpses, I THINK if you had that option on, then holding down Control and clicking "Dispose" will do so without picking up the items. So says the readme anyway. I don't actually have Morrowind installed at the moment, so it wouldn't be very easy for me to check.

Another thing I like about the code patch is that there is an option to make sneaking a toggle rather than a button you hold down. And an option so the "Ready Magic" button just quick casts the current spell. Both are conveniences to make the controls work more like Oblivion, rather than must-haves, but if you want to dabble in both melee and magic combat it's a huge benefit.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #82 on: January 18, 2014, 02:38:20 pm »

Hm... I don't suppose there's any mod that saves what page of your journal you last viewed? I did a little exploring and fiddling around before coming back to the quest I'm on now, and every time I open my journal to read the names of my targets again, I have to scroll back through 8 pages...

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2014, 02:39:50 pm »

Tribunal (or Bloodmoon ?), included a way to classify the journal with quests. There should be a tab with quests or something, that will make it easier for you to find something. Journal can be really messy after some time.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #84 on: January 18, 2014, 02:59:17 pm »

When in doubt, pen and paper are your best friends in old roleplaying games.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2014, 03:04:26 pm »

Sneaking is leveled up by sneaking around without anyone seeing you. Which is much easier to determine in the later games, when you have an actual visibility meter.

Actually, there IS an icon that pops up in the lower left corner, looking like this: That lets you know whether you're currently detected. (If you don't see it, it means somebody can see you). However, it's still not as useful as in later games.

As long as you're willing to mod, Sappho, I'd recommend the Morrowind Patch Project. The code patch only fixes those bugs that are impossible to fix by normal mods, and leaves the others to mods like this one.
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« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2014, 03:12:57 pm »

Bit of a warning on pushing back the fog since you want a non-spoiled playthrough: There's at least one quest on the main quest line where you're supposed to locate a hard-to-find something in the wilderness, given only a starting point and a general direction to go. If you push back the fog enough, you can see the something from the starting point, which trivializes the quest. Then again, if you don't like following vague directions in the middle of nowhere, that particular spoiler might be a good thing.

I've been playing with distant cells set to two, and even that feels significantly less restrictive without being too revealing.

They'll attack you, the wrath of the guards will descend upon them instead...
Guards that defend you is a mod, actually. Vanilla Morrowind/Tribunal/Bloodmoon, guards will only act if you're attacked by a mob (or you attack an NPC).

As long as you're willing to mod, Sappho, I'd recommend the Morrowind Patch Project. The code patch only fixes those bugs that are impossible to fix by normal mods, and leaves the others to mods like this one.
The MOSG includes the BTB version of the unofficial patch.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #87 on: January 18, 2014, 03:53:59 pm »

Guards that defend you is a mod, actually. Vanilla Morrowind/Tribunal/Bloodmoon, guards will only act if you're attacked by a mob (or you attack an NPC).
... that said, unless my memory is seriously failing me, being attacked due to taunting and whatnot does stop killing them from being counted as murder. So it's a potential way to get around trouble with the guards and paying off bounties and whatnot. Don't recall bothering with it much, m'self. Would rather just steal everything >_>
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #88 on: January 18, 2014, 06:03:56 pm »

Hm... I don't suppose there's any mod that saves what page of your journal you last viewed? I did a little exploring and fiddling around before coming back to the quest I'm on now, and every time I open my journal to read the names of my targets again, I have to scroll back through 8 pages...
The journal is more fiddly than it needs to be and not modable from my limited search. If you open it, click topics, then quests, then a list of active quests comes up, clicking one will bring up get all the entries relating to the quest. Sometimes there are things I remember people saying missing, but it's decent enough.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2014, 04:59:34 am »

So far I'm enjoying my romp through Morrowind again, it has been way too long. Aside from MGSO, I added in Galsiah's Character Development (a must have to lift some of the burden off the archaic system that practically requires power levelling early), Stealth Enhancements (since I generally play a Thief/Rogue/Assassin, and buffs/maluses to sneaking in daytime vs sneaking at a very dark night can have a bonus that outweighs the potential danger), and Creature Pack 1.1 (for a bit more variety in enemies, with "young" similar modifiers for early creature encounters, and level scaling up to 200 in the event I break 100 in skills/stats via GCD).

Finding some of them is a pain in the ass since a large majority of the mods I remember using no longer exist, are on PlanetElderScrolls (a dated site when it came out that hasn't aged well), or some random website that still carries the torch for a few mods.
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