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[shadowclasper]

If people really think this is an exploit then I guess you could have another level of silk.

Cheap Silk from the spiders that you can get early game.

Deep Silk from the cavern spiders from the wilds.

Forgotten Beast silk obviously.

But I honestly think that the costs of gaining wealth so early are a sufficient balance.

[Ultimuh]

The earlier wealth you get, the faster you will be besieged.
Or am I wrong?

[shadowclasper]

Pretty much, and the more difficult the opponent will be. It might start off as just goblins, but anybody playing vanilla DF will know how deadly that can be in the right circumstances.

Look at the race list in the manual for sieges. It can very quickly get out of hand, especially if you have the fort defense invasions turned on.

[Ultimuh]

By the way, do those spiders take fall damage?

[kamikazi1231]

The drowspiders are an issue anyway, because drow, goblins and orcs always arrive with them. We need more different pack/pull animals for these guys.

They really do make it a bit extreme. Goblin sieges are a bit OP when all fifty of them are constantly webbing.  Might I suggest some sort of warg like creature for the evil races?

[Urist McTeellox]

I'm looking at removing drowspiders as a domestic animal for evil races as part of the orc rebalance.

However I'm incredibly lazy, so I'm delighted to accept patches and/or suggestions on what animal(s) (if any) should replace them. I suspect tusk-oxes are available to orcs, in which case they may not need replacing at all.

[jimboo]

Eh … I didn’t notice this thread because of the title before posting a few moments ago re: Silk Farms.  There is a wealth trigger but it’s fortress aggregate; rare silk clothes when worn affect a dwarf’s mood.  It’s mostly a moot point anyway, it doesn’t take long to hit the trigger.  Meph has nerfed spiders way back but before he did, a webber at the gates was better than a turret.  And white widows would breed and quickly swarm over anything except other spiders; I miss those. 

[Verviticus]

maybe one of the armor runes should be webimmune?  Seems a lot more useful than whatever, fearimmune

[mahrgell]

fear immune is insanely useful, on civilians Give your siegeoperators and clutch miner/masons fear immunity and the will save your ass

Actually it is probably the most used rune on armors for me ^^ Most others I usually consider as too expensive or too situational.