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[( Tchey )]

What about changing the formula instead of editing the save for each soldier everytime it’s needed ?
Is it doable ? What would feel "good" ?

[Rolan7]

I don't have Rosigma yet, but my solution would be to add the following to some facility you always have exactly one of, like the access hatch (and the aboveground base equivalent I guess?)

sickbayAbsoluteBonus: 0.0
sickbayRelativeBonus: 5.0

This heals 5% of each soldier's health per day, stacking with the 1hp per day with no facilities.  >20 days sounds roughly reasonable but it's easy to tweak.  Using the "relative" bonus instead of absolute means that high-health soldiers aren't penalized, is the main thing.

https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Ruleset_Reference_Nightly_(OpenXcom)#Research

[Robsoie]

Thank you for that Rolan7 !
I have been googling around to find where the formula was actually located so i could simply edit it, but it seemed that it was hardcoded. And scripting a workaround like xpiratez does with its freshness + mana system was way beyond my knowledge.

That solution to add those bonus to a basic facility sounds really perfect to fix that massive recovery time problem of those high health troops.
20 to 30 days max sounds very good in gameplay term.

EDIT
the access lift ( STR_ACCESS_LIFT ) and access outposts ( STR_ACCESS_OUT ) facilities for 40k/Rosigma are defined in the terrain_40k.rul of   mods\40k\Ruleset\  (they're not present in the mods\Rosgima\Ruleset\  oddly) so it's where you'll need to add the sickbayAbsoluteBonus and sickbayRelativeBonus entries

Looking into the files, i noticed the existence of an Apothecary Bay (and some other type of Bay for the other factions you can play as) that provide those healing bonus, but on my playthrough i never saw it so i guess it's beyond the mid-tier research (or higher), that you should postpone for a while until your troops are good enough.

[None]

Thanks for that- I've not tried the 40k/ROSIGMA mod yet, but I've added the same tweak in anticipation for when I do. I know just about nothing related to 40k, but more XCOM is more fun, right?

[Robsoie]

That combination of 40K and Rosigma is rather amazing with an incredible amount of content.
It's not yet on par with the insane amount of stuff found in X-Piratez, but it's on its way as the Rosigma expansion is continuously worked on with even more stuff added on each release.

Similarly to X-Piratez, one of the difficulty is to get familiar with the truckloads of weapons and ammos as there are several variants of the same weapons (that have their own stats or firemodes) and another difficulty is how to get a feel of the enemies power level in comparison to yours if you're not expert in wh40k.   

[Robsoie]

I don't know if it's a game mechanic of tabletop wh40k , but there's a good interest in having some troops with laser in 40K/Rosigma , laser destroy armor.
Meaning you have some guardsmen making holes in that heavily armored brute and you can finish it easily with some bolters.

Apparently there's mention of a monster that is extremely resistant to both bullets and lasers, but not to fire, so make sure to always have some flamers around, and flamers are awesome anyways, got a triple kill combo in the same shot recently with a scout and a flamer

[E. Albright]

It's been a long time since I was current w/40k stuff, but a couple editions ago lasers didn't degrade armor - and for that matter, I HAVE seen recent Necromunda rules which are broadly similar, and there's no armor degradation there. Armor stripping is something being imported to that ruleset - but at the same time, there's some logic to doing so, as 40k almost always gives a chance to damage things, even if it's a tiny chance, and the OXC engine can have situations where it's literally impossible for a given weapon to hurt a given unit. Generally, laser rifles in 40k are middling-to-weak weapons - they're more reliable than conventional assault rifles (autoguns), but no more accurate or deadly.

[Chiefwaffles]

Sounds like they just want to add in the laser armor pre-damage mechanic from X-Pirates, yeah.

[Dostoevsky]

Almost every weapon in Rosigma has at least a little armor damage, just lasers specialize in it (while otherwise being pretty weak). Lasers also tend to be on pretty crummy weapons platforms (e.g. poor accuracy, no aimed shot, or some other flaw) so they are still not ideal to be using.

Balance for tougher enemies in Rosigma seems to be based on giant armor and health pools, so you have to grind down the armor. Not entirely sure I like it, but it's different. (For your own troops there are armor-repairing support troops.)

Anyhoo, I switched over to X-Com files before too long, as Rosigma still feels fairly unpolished / in progress.

At just about the end of year 1, and I can see why it's a popular mod. Pretty polished, interesting variety (though still somewhat grindy like XPZ), and it is setting up a neat narrative arc of playing 'pre-xcom xcom'. Also feels a bit like a missing link or even synthesis between oldcom, newcom, and even XPZ lore-wise.

[Chiefwaffles]

I really like X-COM files but while it’s still pretty gradual the switch to more traditional X-com gameplay feels super jarring. Just… a bit disappointing. You’re playing the pretty unique early gameplay then the mod just starts taking that away and it feels more like traditional X-Com with some extra mods.

Still good throughout regardless. I just wish it let the focus more on the early style of gameplay.

[Dostoevsky]

I have admittedly never actually played a vanilla oldcom campaign, hah. Crazy, I know.

[EuchreJack]

I have admittedly never actually played a vanilla oldcom campaign, hah. Crazy, I know.

BURN THE HERETIC!

[Robsoie]

Blaster Launchers are so much fun in the original xcom.

Just be worried about what is a safe distance, it's very common to lose half of your squaddies by misjudging how big the explosion radius is.


In other news, Rosigma has a 1.08C release

Spoiler: changelog (click to show/hide)

-FIX: Removed requirement of Arsenal of Faith to use the Adeptas Sentinel Heavy Bolter gun. The bolter can now be fired once you have the Sentinel (Normal Adeptas SoB start).
-FIX: Added a updated buy and rent cost to the Adeptas TTA (Airlifted Rhino convoy) and STR_LANDRAIDER (Immolator Convoy) that the starter Adeptas Strategy Craft manufacturing projects are blocking from being manufactured.
-FIX: The Iron Fists now renamed into the inferior Imperial Fists in the Iron Warrior codex text.
-FIX: Added New Sister and Guard armors to the custom personalLights list to reduce light around the unit.
-FIX: Added Razorback turret armor to the personalLights list, it should now have reduced light aura like other turrets.

Lascannons:
-Given randomType 7 or 2 depending on size of power pack. 50-200% or 50-150% damage

GUARD:
-UPDATED CRAFT: Valkyrie Grav Drop now comes with a little tactical shed to protect your gear pile. The Emperor Protects.
-UPDATED CRAFT: Armor Column with Leman Rus now has 28 deployment points (from 16), with 10 of them riding on top of the vehicles. A bit risky, but you can bring extra soldiers now. Rent bumped from ca 700k to 900k.
-Also added a new CHIMEDON variant turret to the Armored Column, replacing one of the Chimera turrets. This turret carries a battle cannon instead of the multilaser! It has less health, armor and optics than the Leman Rus, and no functional coax heavy bolter.
-Added Gryphonne IV pattern Chimera Turret to the Armored Column and the Light Chimeras (Abhuman start), carries twin heavy bolters.
-Adjusted night vision down for Guard turrets so they have worse vision at night (30 tiles still). Leman Rus still has beastly vision though.
-UPDATED CRAFT: Taurus Krak, HE and INC grenades buffed to have a bit more punch.
-NEW ARMOR: Felinid Jump Armor, for the Cat Drop Force'. Unlocked by researching any live flying enemy (like raptors or stormboyz). Cheaper in kill tokens than the Elysians, but with a -Promethium and Adamantium cost to compensate. Medic version is not available, but the Felinid Jump Armor has better night vision and detection abilities for recon.
-Added 3 more Selection voices for Female Felinids for added variety
-NEW WEAPON: Guard Heavy Mortar. Locked behind heavy weapons requisition tech. Can load 6 shells (2 locked behind smoke tech). HE, Krak, Smoke, Phosphor, Illumination/Flare and Photon. Good max range but poor accuracy, this weapon can lob arcing shells (aimed fire) over cover. Not very useful indoors. Works like the Heavy Bolter with the Heavy Weapons Kit..

ADEPTAS
-BUFFED: Eviscerator to 150 Power and more armor rending damage. Zweihander to 200 power. They damage was pretty poor for costing 20-25 TU to swing at low accuracy. Small bump for the Halberd (+10) and the Power Axe armor rend.
-Added a rent cost to the Adeptas drop pods and sell cost to the Castigator convoy.

ASTARTES
-BUFF: Force Hammer and Mastercrafted variant to 160 resp 200 power, from 130.
-BUFF: Razorback turret aim (from 60 to 100) and armor significantly.
-BUFF: Thunderhawk turrets aim buff.

[Robsoie]

I don't have Rosigma yet, but my solution would be to add the following to some facility you always have exactly one of, like the access hatch (and the aboveground base equivalent I guess?)

sickbayAbsoluteBonus: 0.0
sickbayRelativeBonus: 5.0

This heals 5% of each soldier's health per day, stacking with the 1hp per day with no facilities.  >20 days sounds roughly reasonable but it's easy to tweak.  Using the "relative" bonus instead of absolute means that high-health soldiers aren't penalized, is the main thing.

https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Ruleset_Reference_Nightly_(OpenXcom)#Research

An update on this,  after a few days of playing with this, it unfortunately was not working.
Learned on the openxcom board that OXCE makes a difference between lowercase and capital letters, so it must be
sickBayAbsoluteBonus: 0.0
sickBayRelativeBonus: 5.0
and not
sickbayAbsoluteBonus: 0.0
sickbayRelativeBonus: 5.0

And only then it worked.

[a1s]

I have admittedly never actually played a vanilla oldcom campaign, hah. Crazy, I know.

Imagine an OpenXCom mod based on all of the 80s UFO myths- that's basically oldcom. It's worth playing at least once.