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[Rince Wind]

Not all of them, I think it needs a certain intelligence to know you have been beaten. Dark Ones, Chryssalids, Zombies and some more never give up.
What you can do though is collect the sleepers in one place and have a few gals on protection duty.

[Iduno]

Not all of them, I think it needs a certain intelligence to know you have been beaten. Dark Ones, Chryssalids, Zombies and some more never give up.
What you can do though is collect the sleepers in one place and have a few gals on protection duty.

Also, werewolves and I think ghouls. Luckily, werewolves are tough enough (and small enough numbers) that you can keep them down by bleeding them while they're down. They might still get up again if you take too long.

There are a lot of ghouls and they hide, so you might actually want to pile them up. They (and dark ones) are a lot less trouble to deal with once they get KO and lose their weapons.

[Soadreqm]

This is certainly something, but I have no idea what.

[Rolan7]

Ooh I've only seen those with hyperwave.

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It's a "signal" that glitches around the globe, it's pretty funny looking with enough coverage.

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Dark ones.  I think it's for their base assaults, though I've seen the signal with no assault.  I think it can spawn of their static missions, not sure.

[amjh]

All factions that don't use a ship for terror attacks use the "signal" instead.


I know that ghouls surrender, I've captures dozens of them like that.

[Iduno]

This is certainly something, but I have no idea what.

Base defense incoming. I have heard the speed is to prevent us shooting them down, for reasons.

[Soadreqm]

All factions that don't use a ship for terror attacks use the "signal" instead.

Can confirm. It was ratmen.

[E. Albright]

Base defense incoming. I have heard the speed is to prevent us shooting them down, for reasons.

It's kludgy, but it makes sense. AA guns would be markedly less useful against overland assaults, and and overloading nav systems not at all.

[Iduno]

Base defense incoming. I have heard the speed is to prevent us shooting them down, for reasons.

It's kludgy, but it makes sense. AA guns would be markedly less useful against overland assaults, and and overloading nav systems not at all.

Except base defenses seem like they're pretty much AA guns (moreso in vanilla, but). It's fighter craft that can't shoot people. Although, like you said, it's a kludge.

[Rince Wind]

Some pogroms start like that and sometimes they don't do anything.

[E. Albright]

Except base defenses seem like they're pretty much AA guns (moreso in vanilla, but). It's fighter craft that can't shoot people. Although, like you said, it's a kludge.

Well, pointedly Overloaded Radar gives you a decent, early AA attack which is described as being ECM. It would be really weird if THAT worked against low-tech troops shuffling in overland.

The ideal would be if the engine handled tagging enemy crafts similar to how it tags your crafts, and then made it possible for you to have base defenses (or craft weapons) that are only effective against certain tagged craft. There's really not room for this in the UI even if the OXCom devs added it, though. Pity, as it'd make it possible for a modder to add some sort of perimeter control facility that established mine fields, sentry guns, etc. that'd be worthless against air but good against land or such. Probably not enough utility for the functionality gain even if there was a way to shoehorn the categories into the existing UI (which could just be a description, I suppose; it's not like personal shields have UI elements dedicated to them).

[Soadreqm]

So those Eurosyndicate missions everyone's complaining about start with the research "*EuroSyndicate Deal*", not with "Contacts: EuroSyndicate", right? They sound awful and I don't want to deal with them.

[Aoi]

So those Eurosyndicate missions everyone's complaining about start with the research "*EuroSyndicate Deal*", not with "Contacts: EuroSyndicate", right? They sound awful and I don't want to deal with them.

Yep. The deal basically gives you access to really expensive, really good laser(?) weapons, really early, but in return you have to deal with the EuroSyndicate missions (which basically give nothing other than 1.25m... even the hostages are practically worthless). Or ignore them, which is worth -1500(?) score.

Edit: In hindsight, I think I might be mixing up the score penalty with skipping pogroms. But don't forget you're likely to end up with like -500 from doing the mission itself anyways.

[Robsoie]

In the end i think i would still get the deal for the weapons if you don't have yet access to easily acquirable lasers, those eurosyndicate versions of the lasers are in their stats very good.
The -1500 score can be managed by doing more mission (and shooting down enemy UFO and assault their crashed ships) to get better score, thanks to the good lasers

Though i still don't understand why i noticed several times already neophyte surviving 2 direct hits and being killed only on the 3rd shot from a powerful eurosyndicate markslaser ( 55 laser damage) when i saw several time an enforcer getting one shot killed by the same weapons.

As a markslaser is a type of sniper rifle, i don't think some kind of long range damage drop can explain that (considering said killed enforcers were really far and several of those neophyte were much closer, most of the time only 5/6 tiles away) , any idea ?
(the neophyte situation happened too many time for me to just be a fluke, i think there's a game mechanic i am missing there)

[Iduno]

Though i still don't understand why i noticed several times already neophyte surviving 2 direct hits and being killed only on the 3rd shot from a powerful eurosyndicate markslaser ( 55 laser damage) when i saw several time an enforcer getting one shot killed by the same weapons.

As a markslaser is a type of sniper rifle, i don't think some kind of long range damage drop can explain that (considering said killed enforcers were really far and several of those neophyte were much closer, most of the time only 5/6 tiles away) , any idea ?
(the neophyte situation happened too many time for me to just be a fluke, i think there's a game mechanic i am missing there)

All of the church units are resistant to laser, because of the force circuitry.