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[Telgin]

What's the significance of sorting soldiers?  Putting the noobs at the exit ramp so they eat up all of the reaction fire from the aliens before the veterans come out and return the favor?

[Iduno]

What's the significance of sorting soldiers?  Putting the noobs at the exit ramp so they eat up all of the reaction fire from the aliens before the veterans come out and return the favor?

I use it to sort by a stat I want to train (bravery, reaction, shooting) for certain missions if I've got more soldiers than fit in the transport. Whoever needs training most gets to go. Alternatively, the best veterans go on tougher missions.

Or sorting by psi/MC strength to determine who gets pink slips.

[Soadreqm]

First of the new J16 missions: Devil's Reef. It mentions starting on the surface, then going underwater. I haven't gotten that far, but I have seen 4-5 deep ones, and aquaman (TFTD deep one), and a lobster man. So, uh...this will be fun. At least I'm the only one with any ranged weapons. And grenades.

Aquaman was upset that I hit him with a black powder bomb (he's bleeding), so he fired electricity(?) and 1-hit KO'ed my gal. So that's a thing. It wasn't a direct hit, though. One black powder bomb to the head will still kill Aquaman, at least on the surface.

I had that mission today, and the underwater section is absolutely horrible. It's all sprawling coral, and with the low graphical fidelity and the fixed angle, it's really hard to see its actual shape. You just have deep ones and aquamen lobbing javelins and lightning bolts at you from somewhere. You can thankfully use regular weapons on the mission. I cheesed it by taking all the objectives out with a rocket launcher. Also had high explosives with me, but those wouldn't work. The level geometry made throwing them especially finicky, and the ground next to the celatid beacon wasn't ground for some reason, and the bomb would fall right through it.
I got like a thousand points for it, so that's nice I guess.

[Iduno]

Will bring a rocket launcher.

Anyone have any tips for successfully shooting chain-link fences? I'm in one of the explodey cities full of civilians, so I don't want to use black powder bombs.

Edit: still curious about shooting fences for the future, but I remembered electro lassos are super good at destroying fences.

[Soadreqm]

Has anyone had any success doing space missions in J16? My gals keep taking damage every turn, even with space suits.

[frostshotgg]

They're bugged with a shift in how Dio wanted to handle the environment penalty. Dioxine recommends disabling the enviro damage in space in light of the bug.

Code: [Select]

- type: STR_ENVIRO_SPACE
    paletteTransformations:
      PAL_BATTLESCAPE: PAL_DGOOD_SPACE
    environmentalConditions:
      STR_FRIENDLY:
        chancePerTurn: 100
        firstTurn: 2
        lastTurn: 1000
        message: "STR_AURA_COLD_DEADLY_TXT"
        color: 205
        weaponOrAmmo: "AURA_COLD_DEADLY"
        side: 4
        bodyPart: 1find that in Piratez_Planet.rul and delete the whole 'environmentalConditions' block

I strongly recommend joining the discord, big bugs like this get posted there.

[Iduno]

Deep One mutant pogroms are a slog. Lobstermen are defensive, celatids/fartbags are super offensive or hide somewhere until they can murder someone, and deep ones like close combat so you don't know they're coming. Plus, they don't surrender, so you have to have them all on the ground for the mission to end.

I only lost one gal and exactly half of the population to kill 6 deep ones, capture like 20 more plus 2 live celatids and 2 live lobstermen. It took ~25 turns during which bug hunt never started, and I needed to restart because of a bad start (someone shot the pipe near our ship turn two, and nearly everyone died in a fire). Also, I'm hoping the next base defense isn't soon, because most of my gals got hit with something that caused bleeding (javelins and spears, mostly).

It took me 2 real life evenings to complete so I didn't lose my mind, and the main thing I gained is enough deep one pie ingredients to be doing okay financially next month.

[Robsoie]

the modification for having bug hunt always triggering at turn 15 is just the best, i don't think i could still play xpiratez without it anymore.

[amjh]

There's a "Wounded defend(if HP above x%)" option in the advanced options. I think that's new?

[Iduno]

the modification for having bug hunt always triggering at turn 15 is just the best, i don't think i could still play xpiratez without it anymore.

Yeah, I think I'll do that. The current system where it only kicks in on maps where I'm actively camping to train bravery, but doesn't when I'm actively hunting for the last one or two opponents is bad. Especially when it's supposed to do the opposite.

Also, I guess I need to retract my earlier comments about going into melee with lobstermen being suicidal. It seems to be the only thing that works, aside from the 3 electro lassos I've gotten from jack. Melee with a fast weapon or lasso is real good against pretty much anything. I haven't tried with a cyberdisc (only saw them before I found out how good lassos are, but if academy drones are any indication...), 25mm cannon, or boomasaurus yet.

There's a "Wounded defend(if HP above x%)" option in the advanced options. I think that's new?

It's been there at least 3 or 4 versions. I like 70%, but I can't give a reason why.

[E. Albright]

Choking is really, REALLY good against Loberstermen, so if you have a way to reliably deliver that it's brutal. Wands of Airlessness on someone with decent Voodoo can usually one-shot them.

[Soadreqm]

They're bugged with a shift in how Dio wanted to handle the environment penalty. Dioxine recommends disabling the enviro damage in space in light of the bug.
[...]
find that in Piratez_Planet.rul and delete the whole 'environmentalConditions' block

I strongly recommend joining the discord, big bugs like this get posted there.

Thanks, that worked.
Also Discord is a passing fad. I'm quite happy with my 1980s IRC client.

[Aoi]

So a while back, there was a discussion about how early reticulans showed up...

In the current version, I just got one as my very first mission, albeit as a distress call that gave absolutely no good loot.

In other news, on easy, did anybody start with really annoying missions? I had three false starts before this Reticulan ship-- one in the cold that left 4/6 gals unconscious by the fourth turn (yeah, no, restarting, even though that was entirely my own fault and still recoverable), one with like 8 necropirates (knocked one unconscious, was about to run away when one of my gals got reaction fired to death on the way back to the ship), and one that launched some kind of explosive from out of my LOS straight into my ship as I walked out on the first turn (...).

Other than that opening salvo, everything else has been fair game, though I wasn't expecting to have to go toe to toe with a group of Canny Gals with half my squad being unarmored backup peasants pre-Back to School.

[Mathel]

I have still not seen these necropirates. Will I have to start a new game to get them?

[Rince Wind]

Probably, because they are early game enemies. If they show up later at all the chance is really small.

And I almost always have the first enemy ship land on Iceland.