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[GiglameshDespair]

So the Sky Ninjas have set up shop right close to my main base. I feel like this is going to be a problem.

I'm like on month... 3?4? I haven't managed to get an armed craft yet and have no idea if that means I'm behind schedule.

[Mathel]

I just defended my base from a governement attack armed with plasma weapons.

I lost a bunch of points for killing the hostiles, so the net points from the mission were -1444.

[Aoi]

So the Sky Ninjas have set up shop right close to my main base. I feel like this is going to be a problem.

I'm like on month... 3?4? I haven't managed to get an armed craft yet and have no idea if that means I'm behind schedule.

Neither of those are inherently problematic-- the ninja base being close can actually be a good thing, as it means you can see whenever it does something.

It does, however, mean you might want to manually reroute your flight plans around it, and you'll be subject to a ton of alert spam.

My first attack ship was from using the tiny drill...  Everything else to that point is so weak you're either just shooting tiny, slow civvy ships, or throwing away resources. I do send the starter ship out to follow random things around in case they land though-- may as well take advantage of the free fuel.

I just defended my base from a governement attack armed with plasma weapons.

Huh. I didn't even know the government attacked. How'd you manage to get them so angry at you?

[Robsoie]

Probably destroyed enough government UFO to have the dice roll finally trigger a retaliation mission
From memory there's a small chance, how small depends on difficulty level, after each UFO you shoot down that a retaliation mission will start for the faction of the UFO you destroyed.
Though before the actual base assault, there's a bunch of UFO that will look for your base, if they find it (good idea to shoot them down before they do), the assault ship will come.

But there's a 2nd type of retaliation mission that is scripted to occur after certain researches are made, no idea what is the trigger for each xpiratez faction, but i wonder if there's a research that is setup to make the government hostile to you.

[Mathel]

I explicitly avoid destroying government craft, so it's not that. Not that I destroyed any craft in that area.

It is a new base, still under construction. I had to savescum to even get gals there (by aerial transfer), because the Veterans I hired when the barracks were build hadn't even arrived yet. (The Peasants and Bugeyes had)

IIRC, there is a thing in XPiratez, where some of the minor factions can just randomly spot your base and sell the coordinates to a major faction. That may be what happened. It's just annoying that not only they did it with a new base, but also the faction was the one, whom I should not slay.

[AzyWng]

Hold up, final mod pack got an ipdate? I’m sort of surprised.

[Robsoie]

Never noticed that before as i never used the installer that apparently included those for either openxcom or OXCE and didn't on the zip archive :
https://openxcom.org/downloads-extras/

Since OpenXcom depends on the original game data, it also suffers from bugs present in that data like map glitches and problems. To fix these you need to apply a data patch. However, it is recommended you keep a backup of the vanilla game data, in case you start experiencing issues after applying one of these.

What exactly are those data patches :

This patch covers all fixes to the original X-COM: UFO Defense data that affect OpenXcom, including:
- UFO 1.4 official patch (+ previous versions);
- Combo X-COM Game Folder Patch (by Zombie/Bomb Bloke);
- Various extra fixes by the OpenXcom community.

This patch covers all community fixes to the original X-COM: Terror From The Deep data that affect OpenXcom.

So it seems that's good to install manually if you don't use the openxcom or oxce installers.

[GiglameshDespair]

I took down a Merc landed ship with my starter bus ship.

Lost a gal, a peasant and a dog, with all the remaining gals injured, but I got 'em. A whole bunch of merc soldiers and merc commandos, though unfortunately I was only able to capture 2 of them; the only weapons I had that really seemed to scratch the paint on them was the gothic raygun, the sledgehammer, the axes and this missle launcher I'd found in a previous mission.

It was a night mission, and they seemed to see better in the dark than I did. Mostly I cheesed them with the doors to their own ship, hiding inside and popping out to hit people with a big lump on a stick.

Too bad I can't actually do anything with any of the stuff I got from it, but I did get 1580 infamy, which is pretty nice.

[Mathel]

Does anybody have an idea which would be better as my second HWP against a LV3 Ninja Base?

I am certainly taking Mecha/Electrifier, but the second could either be Mecha/Vulcan, or Tank/85mm.

[E. Albright]

the only weapons I had that really seemed to scratch the paint on them was the gothic raygun, the sledgehammer, the axes and this missle launcher I'd found in a previous mission.

As one of the numbered tech hints says, melee can deal with most problems. Last time I faced a merc ship w/hovertanks, I used a 2h axe to kill them. It's not terribly practical, but I like anchors, too. But in general, after a very ugly fight several versions ago where I took 30+ turns to kill the first MarSec Bodyguard I encountered, I've always kept a hammer, great club, spiked mace, and/or various axes in every ship as soon as I can buy/make such things.

[Aoi]

Does anybody have an idea which would be better as my second HWP against a LV3 Ninja Base?

I am certainly taking Mecha/Electrifier, but the second could either be Mecha/Vulcan, or Tank/85mm.

You're going to be dealing with a row of lightweight turrets and a few midweight ones trained on your starting position... purely based on the need to either have enough firepower to drop them on T1, or the durability to survive, I'd probably go with the tank. My mecha always just crumpled, even having issues on T1 ninja bases.

Remember to take something that can deal with dragon's teeth too, or they'll get stuck after the first row of defenses... preferably carried on somebody, in case somebody throws a grenade onto your equipment pile. 

[Robsoie]

I noticed OXCE 7.7 had been released near the end of August

Spoiler: changelog (click to show/hide)

2022-08-24
QoL:
 - Hotkeys to access more inventory layout templates (by yarolig): https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10734.0.html
 - Allow renaming soldiers in battlescape: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.0.html

Features:
 - Force showing "N units in the exit" if N > 0: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10731.msg148709.html#msg148709
 - HKs ignore also craft low on fuel: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,5717.msg148694.html#msg148694
 - Burning units on the ground produce light: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10675.0.html
 - Interrupt alien missions with invalid alien race: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,5047.msg148380.html#msg148380
 - Export from a real game into a New Battle game: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10708.msg148348.html#msg148348
 - Debug mode in the Geoscape links UI: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10708.msg148365.html#msg148365
 - More save formatting stuff

Modding:
 - Craft transformations in starting conditions: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,4444.msg148706.html#msg148706
 - Custom sound on facility placement: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10726.0.html
 - Added soldier type triggers to Event Scripts: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,7215.msg148704.html#msg148704
 - OXC: added alias `name` for music track definition: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10733.0.html
 - Split `aimAndArmorMultipliers` into `aimMultipliers` and `armorMultipliers` (by Delian): https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10108.msg148515.html#msg148515
 - Statistical bullet saving for craft weapons: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10448.msg148493.html#msg148493
 - Monthly item/craft/soldier purchase limits: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10672.msg148461.html#msg148461
 - Purchasing items from a country: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10716.msg148450.html#msg148450
 - Option to display weapon range in pedia shot type: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10711.msg148460.html#msg148460
 - (breaking change) Option for shorter nerdy pedia info: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10393.msg148251.html#msg148251
 - Geoscape events: `randomMultiItemList`: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,7215.msg148299.html#msg148299
 - Nationality considered for naming spawned soldiers: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10704.0.html
 - Starting condition for presence of a commander: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10669.msg147747.html#msg147747

Scripting:
 - New hooks for hit and damage unit (by item/ammo): https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10692.msg148167.html#msg148167

Bugfixes:
 - OXC: Fixed missing TFTD intercept track
 - OXC: Fixed TFTD Ufopaedia text height
 - Fixed RightAlt+N on Polish keyboards: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10718.msg148453.html#msg148453
 - Open Notes only once: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10718.0.html
 - Include worn armors in transfer into monthly costs: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=4774.msg148363#msg148363
 - "Grand Total" now includes also armor worn by soldiers in transfer: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10709.0.html
 - Fixed 2x2 unit view cone: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10679.0.html
 - Fixed OXC compatibility issue:  https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10697.0.html
 - Fixed craft preview NPE on Android/iOS: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10695.0.html and https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,6591.msg145189.html#msg145189
 - Fixed compatibility of gun melee OXC mods: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10394.msg144396.html#msg144396
 - Fixed INFO button for craft weapon articles: https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,10669.msg147739.html#msg147739

The "Export from a real game into a New Battle game" sounds interesting for adding your campaign squads into the battle mode.

There will be a new button, which allows you to import the currently selected base and craft into the New Battle file, see screenshot.

Button appears only if:
- debug mode is enabled
- craft can hold crew and is able to land
- it's the first craft in a given base (if you want to use another craft, use R-click to move crafts up in the list of crafts)

[Aoi]

Anybody have any tips for getting into XCF after XPZ?

I'm finding going from XPZ difficulty 2 to XCF difficulty 1 to be downright boring early on (a lot of 1 cultist missions), but should I just advance storyline techs to advance to where it ramps up?? And how big a deal are base assaults-- should it be more or less safe to open up minimally defended research outposts, or should I wait until I can field an army and maintain air superiority before doing so?

[Mathel]

You'll find that XCF is easier than XPZ at equal difficulty.

Spoiler: Spoilers for XCF game (click to show/hide)

One thing of note is that the invasion starts January 1st, 1999, regardless of your progress. So you need UFO detection and Air to Air weapons by then.
That means taking down one of the cults.

[Robsoie]

New version of the 40K mod has been released , it's been a while since the last one (i think it was last year)
https://openxcom.mod.io/40k

Spoiler: changelog (click to show/hide)

Update 27.09.2022:

- New features require OXCE 7.7.3
- Add Eldar as playable faction for guard and Arbites after live Seer research
- Small visual bugfixes

The Rosigma expansion also updated to follow up
https://openxcom.mod.io/rosigma

Spoiler: changelog (click to show/hide)

UPDATE 1.09B NOTES:
**Requires OXCE 7.7.3**

- First phase new Eldar 40k v33 update integration.
  Eldar armors given suitable dodge values.
  Eldar armors given updated personal lights values.

- Improved movement range for jump packs while flying, reduced TU cost.

- Buffed Portable Multilaser versions, slightly better range and 2 more shots (12 total, up from 10).

- Raised Repair Rates of ground craft to 10 (usually 4-6) and aircraft to 5 (from 1).

ADEPTAS:
- Malthus Light Lascannon buff: accuracy +10, TU cost -5 (now 2 snap shots possible if not moving). Power +10 dmg, toHealth +10% and power drop off +6 tiles (now 16).

DREADNOUGHTS and PENTINENT ENGINES toughness buff:
- Buffed armor (Front, Sides, Under to 200-260). Venerable Dreads (SM and GK) are stronger.
- Buffed Health (to 100-120, max 150, from 50-70) for the FALLEN SM/GK Dread Pilots

- Buffed SM Assault Cannon, higher rate of fire (10 rounds auto) + small accuracy bump and TU cost reduction.

NURGLE:
- New Enemy Unit: Deathguard Plague Spewer, armed with its namesake weapon. Sprays foul TAINT everywhere. Think flamethrower but with ACID damage. Ignores 40% of armor and does lot of fatal wounds.

ORK:
- New Weapon, Ork Chainsword.

Both the mod and its expansion requires OXCE 7.7.3
I'll have to check this new version, but without Rosigma this time, too many unbalanced content in this one, i just hope 40K changed its grenade range to be similar to Rosigma, as before in 40K it was grenade spam every turns and less use of the other weapons.

edit : toyed a bit with the new 40K mod (without Rosigma) and i really prefer how 40K select a main enemy faction active instead of "every enemy factions are active at the same time" in Rosigma .

The grenade range is unchanged from past 40K version, but oddly i have not seen grenade spam in the several battles i went through (my main enemy seems to be the Orks) , sure my Scouts marines (as i selected Space Marines as my factino) got under grenade shots but most of the time it wasn't a dozen of them, maybe the Orks troops have less grenades, will have to see on terror missions involving other factions.

But what i didn't remembered are the armor system, Rosigma expansion had the armors way stronger than in the 40K mod, by example Scout armor is paper thin in 40K.
On a terror mission (that involved khorne chaos space marines) both my MK7 equipped Space Marines (so a good armor) got one shot killed by plasma (something not rare in Rosigma either), but what surprised me is that several CSM also got murdered by my scouts wielding their Godwin Bolters, something nearly impossible with Rosigma.

So it looks like everything is weaker in 40K , not too bad considering in Rosigma the presence of only a couple of CSM was mostly a "you should retreat from the mission" due to them being nearly impossible to kill with bolters (while most of them had high end weapon one shotting your best troops)