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What do you identify as?

Heterosexual
- 215 (62.7%)
Bisexual/pansexual
- 66 (19.2%)
Homosexual
- 16 (4.7%)
Asexual
- 37 (10.8%)
I'm 12 and what is this?
- 9 (2.6%)

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DJ

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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #480 on: January 17, 2014, 03:49:49 am »

People think all sorts of conflicting things. As long as it's just in the head it doesn't matter, though. I mean, what is the purpose of all these various labels, but simplifying things for outside observers so they can get a sense of what's someone like. From that perspective any thoughts not acted upon may as well not exist. Labels for internal use are kinda pointless because they're less accurate than the overall impression one has about himself.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #481 on: January 17, 2014, 03:55:10 am »

If I eat meat purely for health reasons rather than for the taste I'm still not a vegetarian.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #482 on: January 17, 2014, 04:00:21 am »

People think all sorts of conflicting things. As long as it's just in the head it doesn't matter, though. I mean, what is the purpose of all these various labels, but simplifying things for outside observers so they can get a sense of what's someone like. From that perspective any thoughts not acted upon may as well not exist. Labels for internal use are kinda pointless because they're less accurate than the overall impression one has about himself.
Your argument assumes that the reasons why people do things don't matter. Intent makes all the difference, though, especially in how an outside observer reacts. Knowing someone's intent in an action usually merits a different response to that action.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #483 on: January 17, 2014, 04:01:56 am »

If you don't act on a thought it doesn't ever come up as a reason why you do something, innit?
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #484 on: January 17, 2014, 04:10:51 am »

Yes it does. If a person has sex without feeling an attraction just to please their partner (especially if they say so), of course it comes up as a reason.
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« Reply #485 on: January 17, 2014, 04:49:31 am »

If that person has sex then he or she ain't acting upon the inner asexuality. As far as the partner is concerned, it walks like a duck.
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« Reply #486 on: January 17, 2014, 04:55:21 am »

I would like to take this moment, gentlemen, to alert you to the appropriate literature, and what is generally accepted for what the term means.

Here's wakypedia's take on the argument.

Here's the asexuality awareness people's take on it.


In light of these two sources, the purely pedantic approach is not the generally accepted approach.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #487 on: January 17, 2014, 09:49:17 am »

For one thing, definitions and labels, at least in sexuality, are personal. Some people use them to make it easier for others to understand, others don't. I'm kind of in the middle, "homosexual" is pretty much what I am, but I've slept with women (lost my virginity to one), and I don't just like a good looking guy. But I still consider myself gay, and would rather people treat me as a gay guy. For example, not go "When are you going to get married to a nice girl and raise a kid?"

In that vein, someone can call themselves asexual as much because that's how they feel as I do for homosexual. Maybe they have sex with someone once in a while, but they don't "enjoy" it for anything but the literal stimulation, a la the masturbation angle, they'd be just as happy with a robot as with another person and the circumstances came up this way. Maybe they DO enjoy it for the other person, but on a purely "Hey, this guy's a nice dude, I wanna make him feel good," rather than "Man he's hot, let's get down to business." So an altrustic angle on sex rather than the normal motivations.

It doesn't -really- matter what their actions are. What matters is what they prefer to label themselves. If they call themselves asexual, treat them that way. Don't ask them when the last time they got laid, don't try and hook them up with someone, don't go "Hey, he's hot, right?" Like I said, maybe they have had sex or maybe it's an occasional thing, but nearly everyone does things occasionally that go against one of their chosen labels. That one moment doesn't nullify every OTHER moment where they go WITH one of their chosen labels.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #488 on: January 17, 2014, 10:02:33 am »

Asexual masturbation would be probable for an individual with both balanced masculine/feminine energies and root/sacral chakra blockage. There would be no particular "attraction" to male or female as their energies would be in balance. The north end of a magnet attracts the south end and vice versa. If their sexual north is in balance with their sexual south, they would feel little to no magnetic attraction to others. However, due to the blockage, these matched energies could nevertheless build up pressure that might benefit from manual release.

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« Reply #489 on: January 17, 2014, 10:33:54 am »

masculine/feminine energies and root/sacral chakra blockage.
Sorry, I chuckled at this.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #490 on: January 17, 2014, 10:39:13 am »

The north end of a magnet attracts the south end and vice versa. If their sexual north is in balance with their sexual south, they would feel little to no magnetic attraction to others.
Are you serious about this, or is it okay to make jokes about that Nigerian who disproved homosexuality?
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #491 on: January 17, 2014, 11:02:58 am »

Asexual masturbation would be probable for an individual with both balanced masculine/feminine energies and root/sacral chakra blockage. There would be no particular "attraction" to male or female as their energies would be in balance. The north end of a magnet attracts the south end and vice versa. If their sexual north is in balance with their sexual south, they would feel little to no magnetic attraction to others. However, due to the blockage, these matched energies could nevertheless build up pressure that might benefit from manual release.

...wow.
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #492 on: January 17, 2014, 11:12:47 am »

That's kinda the reaction I had--

But, if your personal philosophy is based on new-age mysticism... I guess it's as good an explanation as any other...
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Re: Sexuality: The pollening.
« Reply #493 on: January 17, 2014, 11:15:29 am »

Mmmm.... not really :P

Science can explain a lot of these things, and that's a hell of a lot better explanation than mysticism.
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« Reply #494 on: January 17, 2014, 11:21:05 am »

I agree, but people DO have a right to their beliefs, and the agnostic in me strongly asserts that I should not demonize.
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