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mastahcheese

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Re: toady
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2014, 02:54:01 am »

Dear lord, this is turning ugly fast.

Thanks for the awesomeness, Toady! And Threetoe as well!
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2014, 04:00:15 am »

Besides the fact that when you donate you aren't buying shares, many of these vocal haters never donated and never will.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2014, 05:40:06 am »

I said 'Shareholder' was the incorrect term already, but I'll say it again I guess.
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Re: toady
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2014, 08:27:47 am »

I'd like to add that Toady is an amazing storyteller. His devlog is hilarious. Go read it if you haven't already.

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2014, 09:15:21 am »

The correct term is stakeholder and yes, of course, those who donated have a stake in the project. It won't be a legally binding contractual stake but not everything in life has to be measured to legally binding contractual standards. There are such things as ethics beyond law where people have to consider their obligations to other people even when they aren't legal obligations.

Regardless, please don't try to poison a positive thread meant for showing appreciation.
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Re: toady
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2014, 02:35:24 pm »

The correct term is stakeholder and yes, of course, those who donated have a stake in the project. It won't be a legally binding contractual stake but not everything in life has to be measured to legally binding contractual standards. There are such things as ethics beyond law where people have to consider their obligations to other people even when they aren't legal obligations.

This means that you, like DVNO, believe that Toady has a moral obligation to take every donator's wishes (which you boldly assume he is able to know and harmonize with each other) into account when he's making decisions about DF, yes? I don't share that point of view. When someone donates, which is an entirely voluntary choice that they are making, Toady may take that as an indication that they like what he's been doing so far and/or what he intends to do. Should donations taper off, he might conclude that some people out there aren't pleased with his recent performance, and respond as he sees fit. A voluntary donation to a project, made without any explicit promise of gaining a degree of control over that project, does not buy you any legal or moral right to influence the project's direction.

It's like if some stranger sent you twenty bucks in an envelope, then showed up a month later asking you to drop whatever you're doing to go to the beach with them, and then called you a selfish bastard when you said no. They once gave you twenty bucks, after all. That stranger is the bastard, trying to retroactively turn a gift into a debt. Does Toady have a "stake" in the life of every person who downloaded and played DF for free? I hope not.
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Re: toady
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2014, 06:18:53 pm »

i just made this to thank toady, no need to argue guys
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2014, 07:04:22 pm »

yeah, can we just let this argument die already? Yezzus, I forgot this thread was a thing ten hours ago.
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2014, 09:21:57 am »

how can someone hate a man for doing what he loves?
Yeah, how?

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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2014, 10:14:55 am »

how can someone hate a man for doing what he loves?
Yeah, how?



Godwin's law in just a few posts. Congratulations all!
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2014, 02:10:43 pm »

Godwin's law in just a few posts. Congratulations all!
Gotta admit it was begging for it :V
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2014, 08:52:19 pm »

That is one happy looking Hitler.
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Re: toady
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2014, 12:59:54 pm »

Thank you Toady for all the FUN times that are DF.

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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2014, 09:03:23 am »

Yes, thank you Toady for a wonderfully in-depth game which, somehow, only gets better after each release. I salute you, and I am sure there are many others who do so as well and appreciate your work. You are !!Toady!!

To avoid confusion, I meant !!Toady!! to mean You are on fire Toady.  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2014, 07:04:23 pm »

I don't hate Toady for taking so long, I am just old and I want to know what the update is like before I die (or become physically unable to play it).
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