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[LeoLeonardoIII]

Yep. Definitely how I wanna go, in the end.

[IronTomato]

Back on the topic of forum atmosphere, this is the only place I've seen this kind of thing happen.

[Baffler]

I would say there's just as much aggression and circle-jerkery on this forum as on any other.
We're just less glaringly obvious about it. Any conflict is likely to involve a series of small jabs and snide comments than, "Go fuck yourself and die in a ditch," or comments of a similar nature.

We manage to work it out fairly easily and move on though, we're all Pathos here, after all.

[Tiruin]

I can testify to the learning curve. Check out the ksp forums - it's not as nice as here, but the fact most people there are reasonably intelligent really helps.
Another thing is the niche. DF is very, very, niche - which means a very tight group of personalities and people are attracted to it and like minded people tend to get along. We (nearly) all share the same slightly twisted sense of humour, are mostly comfortable with mocking each other yet few people would be able to identify a flame war here (hint: look for long, methodical, logical posts gracefully dismembering someone else's argument). Not to mention nobody rants at the newbies. Gimmie a moment, there's a thread (and a post of Girlinhat's in particular) which perfectly summarises me.

Note: Oh almighty XANTALOPE (computer insists it is block caps), it now recognises Girlinhat's hat as a leader. Be... springy?

I'd..not agree that much with this 'twisted sense of humor' (Actually was attracted to the forum here due to masterwork literature, and I tend to play my forts in the most pacifist/philanthropist way ever). We're not all alike in how we view things, like the moral concepts of...what exactly to do in DF or all that, but there is always a basis of logic behind every person (as far as I've seen here) who made a serious account.

But yes. I like how the theme of we're all buddy-buddy and close-knit exists, despite the gaps between years and member increase.

I would say there's just as much aggression and circle-jerkery on this forum as on any other.
We're just less glaringly obvious about it. Any conflict is likely to involve a series of small jabs and snide comments than, "Go fuck yourself and die in a ditch," or comments of a similar nature.

We manage to work it out fairly easily and move on though, we're all Pathos here, after all.

True this. We have less belligerence, but we still embodify what is the human nature.
We argue with style and class.

Spoiler: Other stuff (click to show/hide)

Yeah, I agree with the DF theory. I tried to get my Minecraft friends to play it (they were basically the average Internet user, meaning improper grammar, not reading >2 paragraph long posts etc.) and they basically went "SHIT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE GRAFFICS SHITTY ABORT MISSION"

o_o
Err, if this is 'average', then either there's a difference in location and common preconception of the people, or I'm quite glad to have not met in that kind of averageness...in all my 'net life'.
...
Or in the least not have played with them too much. There are people like that. >_>

It's a well-known fact that all posters here are really Xantalos' puppet accounts. Including Toady and Threetoe. And the kitchenbots. He just likes to talk to himself sometimes.

All these inside jokes...I'll never get them unless explained. >_<

[Caz]

'd..not agree that much with this 'twisted sense of humor' (Actually was attracted to the forum here due to masterwork literature, and I tend to play my forts in the most pacifist/philanthropist way ever). We're not all alike in how we view things, like the moral concepts of...what exactly to do in DF or all that, but there is always a basis of logic behind every person (as far as I've seen here) who made a serious account.

You mean you don't run your forts as quasi hitler/stalin-esque death camps? -_- I thought I knew you...

[Tiruin]

Nah, I set the population limit to ~20/50 depending on world gen (...Huh, I've never tried it on my new laptop so... Thanks for reactivating the thought) and usually put in the realism.

War.

Glory.

Trade.

And we live overground. Hard, yet fun. :3

All that. Anyway, rerailing-I believe the forum atmosphere consists of those who...can actually take DF by its deeper aspect. Since the game attracts people, only a fraction of those visit the forums-either attracted by the game itself or by the works of those inspired by said game. I fall in the latter, but the former would also make sense.
^{I mean, my first post.. >.>}
I'd like to know how the older members see the atmosphere though. They've got a basepoint far back in the forum past to check this with experience.

[Descan]

I asked Toady something similar to this once.

Spoiler: His answer: (click to show/hide)

I was wondering your opinion on the different culture in the lower boards versus the upper. There are many in the lower who haven't played DF in years, and some not at all. Giant masses of political threads roving the GD region. The... well, hatred is rather a heavy term, but the disapproval of memes in general, and "everybody is pathos/magma/DWARFFORTRESSMEME#132" jokes in particular...

There are people in both sections, but yeah, it's natural for there to be a split after such a long time.  I don't follow closely enough though I guess -- do you mean that memes are disliked down below?  That could be because of the various incarnations of the "various nonsense" section.  It never works out, so pure nonsense might be discouraged.

And the rather large visible LGBT community you seem to have fostered. How everyone is caring and intelligent, and open to newcomers, despite having mostly the same resources as other forums that... aren't so much. The only differences I can see are the hidden post counter and the relative difficulty of DF, but even that seems like not enough. I've heard of obscure/difficult game communities that were as terrible as the worst of SomethingAwful or /b/...

I've done a lot of cracking down on bigots is probably the short answer.  Mutes and bans for words like "f****t" and "n****r" go a long way toward cleaning the crappy parts of the web out of a place.  And it would turn sour here in a month or two if we took our fingers out of the dam.  It's like the natural setting of the internet.

[LordSlowpoke]

oh, these words are straight up bannable? i hope in a charged context only, who'd want a debate to end with permas over a bundle of sticks

bay12 can be uppity, self centered and elitist shitlords if they want to, but when they don't it's nice, so let's just hope it rarely happens

[Skyrunner]

(...Huh, I've never tried it on my new laptop so... Thanks for reactivating the thought)

Tiruin confirmed as robot.

Which reminds me, I hope the newest version is released before March.

[Remuthra]

(...Huh, I've never tried it on my new laptop so... Thanks for reactivating the thought)

Tiruin confirmed as robot.

Which reminds me, I hope the newest version is released before March.

Based on some exclusive insider information, I can confirm it will indeed be released by March 2016.

[Ultimuh]

(...Huh, I've never tried it on my new laptop so... Thanks for reactivating the thought)

Tiruin confirmed as robot.

Which reminds me, I hope the newest version is released before March.

Based on some exclusive insider information, I can confirm it will indeed be released by March 2016.

Huh.. I thought it would be by March 2023..

[LeoLeonardoIII]

In March 2101, update was beginning.

[Flying Dice]

I asked Toady something similar to this once.

Spoiler: His answer: (click to show/hide)

I was wondering your opinion on the different culture in the lower boards versus the upper. There are many in the lower who haven't played DF in years, and some not at all. Giant masses of political threads roving the GD region. The... well, hatred is rather a heavy term, but the disapproval of memes in general, and "everybody is pathos/magma/DWARFFORTRESSMEME#132" jokes in particular...

There are people in both sections, but yeah, it's natural for there to be a split after such a long time.  I don't follow closely enough though I guess -- do you mean that memes are disliked down below?  That could be because of the various incarnations of the "various nonsense" section.  It never works out, so pure nonsense might be discouraged.

And the rather large visible LGBT community you seem to have fostered. How everyone is caring and intelligent, and open to newcomers, despite having mostly the same resources as other forums that... aren't so much. The only differences I can see are the hidden post counter and the relative difficulty of DF, but even that seems like not enough. I've heard of obscure/difficult game communities that were as terrible as the worst of SomethingAwful or /b/...

I've done a lot of cracking down on bigots is probably the short answer.  Mutes and bans for words like "f****t" and "n****r" go a long way toward cleaning the crappy parts of the web out of a place.  And it would turn sour here in a month or two if we took our fingers out of the dam.  It's like the natural setting of the internet.

That second bit is a big part of it. It's harder for nastiness to grow when it gets cut off at the neck every time it pokes through the door.

[wierd]

"What happen!?"

'The goblins setup us the bomb!"

We get signal!
 --What?!
Main screen turnon!

--It's you!

How are you Gentledwarfs? All your fortress are belong to US! You are on the way to destruction!
--What you say!?
You have no chance to survive, make your time! HAHAHAHAH!

Wierd Joykill, Player abandons fortress: Too much meme.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Perhaps it was just too early.