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[Girlinhat]

that would be quite hard, leg have a huge no placement hitbox

And legs have a low carry limit, so they're going to be bogged down.  It will be an extremely large tank though, for sure.  That's why the idea is to get the legs as close together as possible, so the skirt doesn't have to be too big and heavy.

[Sheb]

Anyone tried a "sled" design, with only thruster for movement?

[Girlinhat]

Anyone tried a "sled" design, with only thruster for movement?

I tried, they're best at low tier.  Heavier armor makes them less useful, as it increases their drag.  Heavier thrusters help, but then it's just a race of weight vs power.  Not useful for rails, they slide around too much, semi-useful for plasma, as you can skim by, take shots, and skim away.  Probably works very well with electroplates, low weight and renewable armor...

The biggest problem is that everything touching the ground provides friction.  The best sled I've seen used 3 of the flag badges as skids, Japan to be exact because the single red dot looked neat.  If you just use blocks, they grind on the ground and you don't move very fast.

[LoSboccacc]

I use a sled basically, space retreat the leg up and I slide on the t10 thrusters. hovers are just to unstuck myself.

but I have to use 8-10 thrusters (can't remember) top and down and it hurts on tier/cpu

[Flying Dice]

Huh, I can't believe I've gone this long without noticing this. Pretty fun so far, even though I'm only mid-T3 with a plasma armor block.

[LoSboccacc]

I'm really starting to appreciate the rail gameplay.

you aren't too powerful, but you can really help changing the tide of a battle. mobility is key, and most of the damage is done indirectly by psychological warfare.

it is often better to spread rail across multiple target just so they have to be alert on your presence and the rest of the team have to worry about less enemy at a time.

I kept four engaged once. got some damage, but the enemy team was split even while they were all grouped in a single place.

also, shooting medics is fun.


here is my T10 flying spider - heavily plated front, with breakable 'antennae' to absorb the first shot in any given non plated area. For example that structure holding the jammer, can break off without giving structural damage to the insides.

very useful for rails vs rails battles! it is less visible but rear holding arms have one of those structure as well.

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walks on only 4 legs, that's its main weak spot. but I couldn't fit more without sacrificing stuff, and I wanted to be able to fit rudders to fly

[crazysheep]

T10 rails are support bots imo. Not enough damage to kill, but strong enough damage to cripple. It definitely takes more thought to play a good rail bot in higher tiers, simply because stuff doesn't melt in 2-3 shots, and then you have the proliferation of medic bots...

[Girlinhat]

In T6 I found rails to be pretty massively powerful.  1-3 shots will take down nearly any flier, and most will at least fall out of the sky with one hit, which essentially removes their threat.  Plated fliers are the biggest threat, as they can take a rail shot without losing a wing.  On the ground a few good shots can usually strip the enemy of their guns, which is an ENORMOUS help in all regards.  When you've got an 8 or 20 second reload time, and the enemy has 6 SMGs bearing down on you, firing 3 shots and removing 4 of his guns makes him a lot less dangerous as you reload.  Plucking the doctor lasers off a medic is also hilarious fun, as is pegging the barely exposed rudder of a landed flier, and having the damage propagate downwards for a clean kill.  White block fliers are the most fun to shoot.

[Rose]

I'd argue that any kind of flier is equally fun to shoot with SMGs

[crazysheep]

I once disintegrated an enemy rail tank by shooting off his single rail. Think this was in T5, where I used my rail hover.

[Girlinhat]

I once disintegrated an enemy rail tank by shooting off his single rail. Think this was in T5, where I used my rail hover.

Thanks to the way damage propagates, that's easily possible.  Weapons placed very near the cockpit are a magnet for enemy fire, so when the enemy shoots off your gun they're very likely to also damage your pilot seat as well.  If you want higher survival (and longer time crippled) then place your guns far from your seat.  If you also place your guns far from your movement form (wheels, hovers, etc) then you're more likely to lose just one function and not be one-shot crippled.  A weaponless flier can still return to a medic, or a grounded tank can still throw fire.  Reinforcing the blocks the separate your weapons and wheels is a fantastic idea, a good plan is to place a wheel, then build a small pillar of your best armor, and place a weapon on top.  Repeat that, then place blocks in between to form a solid shape.

[crazysheep]

Yeah, it was a really small rail tank, more of a buggy than a tank.

[LoSboccacc]

Yeah, it was a really small rail tank, more of a buggy than a tank.

that's a strange combination, when you overtier to the point you are only a weapon on wheels you wouldn't use the one weapon that limits mobility...

[crazysheep]

You were expecting plasma weren't you :p

[LoSboccacc]

oh these days I play t2-4 with funbuggy. I got a t5 laser in t2 and it makes for a very agile and rapid firing sniper.

also because I suck at aiming plasma.