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[Proto105]

Could you please add me to the turn list?

[Meph]

Added.

Splint, what should it be? Delete you from the Overseer list, since your dwarf died? Or what is your plan? Rule as qhostly General Splint from the grave? (you could actually deconstruct coffin and slab and have your ghost around for a year)

[Splint]

I dunno yet. I was functioning on no sleep before and I'm worried my ghost might be less than friendly. Give me a bit to think it over.

[mahrgell]

If we have more dwarfs then right now, it would be perfectly fine, if your ghost kills one here and there during his reign Not everyone has to be Mr nice guy ^^

[CaptainArchmage]

How many units are in the units list during this playthrough? If the number of units in total went above 3000, you will not get any migrants because of Dwarf Fortress bugs, and I saw early on that there were 4500 units around. I'm not sure whether triggering a migrant wave will do anything about this.

It looks like some fun things are going on in this fort. Are there any dwarves around for dwarfing?

[Meph]

How many units are in the units list during this playthrough? If the number of units in total went above 3000, you will not get any migrants because of Dwarf Fortress bugs, and I saw early on that there were 4500 units around. I'm not sure whether triggering a migrant wave will do anything about this.

It looks like some fun things are going on in this fort. Are there any dwarves around for dwarfing?

There are certainly over 3000 on the map. Guess we have to visit the underground structure a bit.

I just wish I knew why MDF always has so large numbers in them. I never found the reason, otherwise I would trim it down a bit.

[Swagile]

Oh man, I don't look at this topic for like a day and a half and suddenly I die O_O


I wanted to die in battle, damnit!

At least I got the glory of the first kill.

[jaxy15]

I wanted to die in battle, damnit!

You died in the epic battle for the remaining booze. Is that not good enough for you?

[CaptainArchmage]

There are certainly over 3000 on the map. Guess we have to visit the underground structure a bit.

I just wish I knew why MDF always has so large numbers in them. I never found the reason, otherwise I would trim it down a bit.

If those are in the units list (living or dead), then there will be no further migrants unless we can patch the damn bug reducing their numbers using DFhack.

[mahrgell]

First kill, first death... It is the circle of life.
But I would say, jaxys way of putting it is a bit... too nice. It sounded like he just thought:
" Damn, I'm thirsty, but those 2 guys are already drinking from our endless supplies of booze, I better wait for a bit, maybe start another adamantine extraction in the meantime."
35 booze is hardly a shortage ^^

But it seems like only dailm got honoured with a glorious death until now.

Oh and the units are not in the unitlist, but since the structure is already in sight, i guess they are just out of sight and already calculated
So let's kill a few thousand undead with our 20 dwarves, so we can replenish our (by then all dead) dwarfs.

[BigD145]

I see no problem with cheating taking out enough undead to get a migrant wave or two and then train and slog through more mundane means of killing.

[Jerbot]

The no migrants issue is more complicated than that. If I understand correctly, dead units also count against the 3000 unit number. Here is a link of one thread about it. I'm sure you can find more.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=116924.0

The thing about it is, you have to kill thousands of undead, then run the fix/dead-units command in dfhack, and hope it reduces things enough, and doesn't break anything. I have gotten the command to work fine in my newest fort, and it removed almost all of my dead list, although I wasn't at 3000 yet. It reduced my units lists from about 1000 to about 250. If I am understanding how it works correctly, it will remove almost all of the random dead zombies who didnt kill anybody.

[mahrgell]

wouldn't it be possible to wall in the whole structure and then channel into the original walls of it from above, until we manage a cavein. When you are saying undead, I assume they have no ranged abilities. Even though a miner with no fear might be needed, but that is achievable with ingamemethods. All in all this method should kill them pretty fast and be doable in less then an ingame year.
After we have killed enough undead that way, we would only need to fix-dead via dfhack.

[Rum]

RIP Dailm

Wouldn't using the forcemigrants command once a year be effectively the same?

If we can solve this I would like to be redworfed as dailm II

[kamikazi1231]

I would suggest that the next overseer start mass breeding war animals and buying up the most vicious creatures you can find.  Then put all of them in one cage.  Use the siege engine plug in to throw them into the underground area and see if 500 iron/steel clad war animals can reduce those undead numbers a little haha.

But on a more serious note if we can't find a way to get more dwarves we may have to resort to a large war animal militia.  Dwarves are too valuable to let die then.

Do we still have the townportal building?  Perhaps spend some time researching down that direction and see if we can get dwarves that way.