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[4maskwolf]

I think that the scumteam has only one kill/convert per night, no matter how many members actually have that power.

[mastahcheese]

Yeah, you'd certainly have to limit that.

[Tiruin]

@NQT: Really balance out the day-powers (or at least the costs for them)
Why?

I'd be the Hardcore Inspector.
> Hardcore (-1)
> Day- Ability/Alignment Cop (+1, +5)

If I'm not correct, this uses up all the first stats.

Or perhaps the Miller Saboteur?

> Sap; Prolific (+2, +4)
> Miller (or Dense. :3) (-1)

[mastahcheese]

Because forget having night actions be difficult.

10 - Prolific Double-Voter
-1 - miller. shows up as scum under inspect (town only)
-2 - unreliable (your powers and autos have a 50% chance of failure. Must have at least one power or auto in order to take this flaw)
-2 - magnetic (your powers have a 50% chance of targeting yourself- must have at least one other-affecting power to take this)

You vote three-four times, which can fail and target yourself.
Find a way to add in Bloodthirsty and Thrill-Seeker and you'll be the most unreliable person there ever was.

[notquitethere]

Cheese, I think that's a good idea. I'll price Day- the same way as Free-. This allows lots of possibilities, while making scum teams of day cultists somewhat less likely.

So, Tiruin wouldn't be able to make a day cop straight off the back unless she took a bunch more flaws.

Also, Cheese, you wouldn't be able to take magnetic or unreliable if your only power was double-voter (as it doesn't target others).

[mastahcheese]

You have to admit, unreliable voting would be hilarious.

[Tiruin]

So, Tiruin wouldn't be able to make a day cop straight off the back unless she took a bunch more flaws.

I'll take ALL THE FLAWS MWAHAHAAHAA
Edit the Bloodthirsty point. You do know that people would be lynch-happy for dem points sooner or later and it does break conventional scumhunting law. ;P

You have to admit, unreliable voting would be hilarious.

All the votes! Throw them at everyone!

[mastahcheese]

Hmm, if you have multiple votes on someone, do you get more points if they get lynched and you have bloodthirsty?

Also, +1 with Tiru on the bloodthirsty ability, that would really break the way things are done.
You'd see way to many "Well, he's going to die, may as well get some points off of him" moments. As well as using it as an excuse by scum to vote people.

[notquitethere]

See, I like Bloodthirsty because it both encourages players to vote and also gives them a difficult decision when it comes to bandwagoning. A good town player with it would try extra hard to convince other players that their scum pick is the right one.

[Tiruin]

...How's about let's run it and test it for the moment, unless anyone has any major and minor notes on the stat-point system?

[mastahcheese]

...How's about let's run it and test it for the moment, unless anyone has any major and minor notes on the stat-point system?

+1, she makes a good point.

[TheDarkStar]

I suspect that scum could pull off some pretty powerful lists of powers with the "cleanse" ability and the "point share" ability. Example:


Scum 1: Point Share, hardcore, maybe dense. End total of 4 or 5 leftover points (calling it 4 + 1 for day end)

Scum 2: Cleanse, Changling, Mercenary, Hardcore, Dense with 2 leftover points to be used first for assisting scum #3 and then for giving a useless role to someone.

Scum 3: Convert, Hardcore, Dense, Mercenary, Unable to vote, Unreliable, Magnetic, Kill.


Next time, Scum 3 picks a new thing worth 4 or 5. Some choices:

Prolific if it can be used for kills or converts

Resurrection if it applies to votes

innocent/silent/unstoppable and maybe clear-minded

Sap/Redirect, Block, or Bus

Santa/Innocent

Of course, this requires all the scum to survive.

[notquitethere]

...How's about let's run it and test it for the moment, unless anyone has any major and minor notes on the stat-point system?

+1, she makes a good point.

Ok, the game is now up!

[Leafsnail]

Bear in mind that scum could close out the game very quickly.  For example, 3 mafia members out of 13 players can easily win after a single mislynch if they take a convert and 2 vote stealers.

[notquitethere]

Nah, then every town with a kill will just kill the vote stealers on night 2 (and if the scum put all their points into conversion and vote theft, they'll have poor defence at night).