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[H4zardZ1]

I came up with a idea, but i'm not sure how(and if) will this work.

There is 2 teams with 2 members trying to kill the other team. A member team could NK, but the other could only inspect(only town or not)+track the targetted person.
About the slots, 3 or 4 mafia players, 2 players on team 1, 2 players on team 2 and 9 Townie players.
Any ideas to balance that? If the teams mix up well with townie, it is effectively 3 or 4 mafia v 2 vig, 2 cop and 9 other townies. Do i need to reduce the number of townies or what?

Hello?

[Mephansteras]

I came up with a idea, but i'm not sure how(and if) will this work.

There is 2 teams with 2 members trying to kill the other team. A member team could NK, but the other could only inspect(only town or not)+track the targetted person.
About the slots, 3 or 4 mafia players, 2 players on team 1, 2 players on team 2 and 9 Townie players.
Any ideas to balance that? If the teams mix up well with townie, it is effectively 3 or 4 mafia v 2 vig, 2 cop and 9 other townies. Do i need to reduce the number of townies or what?

Hello?

Well, with two Mafia teams there is going to be a lot of crossfire. I wouldn't put any Vig's in that set-up, personally. Otherwise you're going to have a really short game. Two Docs, maybe. Since both Scum teams will legitimately be hunting the other team it is actually really tough for town to figure out who is Mafia, but the crossfire hits to both teams can balance that out.

[TheDarkStar]

I came up with a idea, but i'm not sure how(and if) will this work.

There is 2 teams with 2 members trying to kill the other team. A member team could NK, but the other could only inspect(only town or not)+track the targetted person.
About the slots, 3 or 4 mafia players, 2 players on team 1, 2 players on team 2 and 9 Townie players.
Any ideas to balance that? If the teams mix up well with townie, it is effectively 3 or 4 mafia v 2 vig, 2 cop and 9 other townies. Do i need to reduce the number of townies or what?

Hello?

Well, with two Mafia teams there is going to be a lot of crossfire. I wouldn't put any Vig's in that set-up, personally. Otherwise you're going to have a really short game. Two Docs, maybe. Since both Scum teams will legitimately be hunting the other team it is actually really tough for town to figure out who is Mafia, but the crossfire hits to both teams can balance that out.

One similar setup that comes to mind is Two-Fold C9++, although it differs from H4zard's idea because town power roles that only affect one scum team or the other.

[fillipk]

I had an idea for a Mafia game and wanted to run it through here:

4 townies
3 trackers
1 Jester with the power to visit someone
1 serial killer with 3 powers; Kill someone, Visit someone and have that person kill someone, 1 shot visit someone have them visit someone who then visits someone and kills that person
If the sk is lynched day 1 the Jester will become the SK,

I've done some math and it looks like it would be balanced but I'm not sure so any concerns/improvement suggestions are welcome.

[Mephansteras]

Does that set-up not have any Mafia in it?

[FallacyofUrist]

Looks like no Mafia, yes...

This just may be my opinion, but I'd make one of the 4 townies a guardian(protector) instead.

[Toaster]

If the SK uses the visit (or double visit) power, do any of the other players in the chain know what happened?  If the SK uses it on the Jester who is already visiting someone else, what happens?  What do the Trackers see in that case?

[fillipk]

If the SK uses the visit (or double visit) power, do any of the other players in the chain know what happened?  If the SK uses it on the Jester who is already visiting someone else, what happens?  What do the Trackers see in that case?

Nobody in the chain will know this happened, and the jester will still visit normally, trackers will see who visited the person they watched (maybe I'm using the wrong role)

Looks like no Mafia, yes...

This just may be my opinion, but I'd make one of the 4 townies a guardian(protector) instead.

The problem with this is the sk only has "one life" so it's a bigger deal if he is denied a night kill since he is working alone.

[flabort]

Trackers see who their target visited. Watchers see who visited their target.
Perhaps you could use two of each?

[Toaster]

If the SK uses the visit (or double visit) power, do any of the other players in the chain know what happened?  If the SK uses it on the Jester who is already visiting someone else, what happens?  What do the Trackers see in that case?

Nobody in the chain will know this happened, and the jester will still visit normally, trackers will see who visited the person they watched (maybe I'm using the wrong role)

If you are using watchers, then what happens if the Jester visits the person who the SK then makes the Jester visit?  Does the jester show once or twice?

[fillipk]

If the SK uses the visit (or double visit) power, do any of the other players in the chain know what happened?  If the SK uses it on the Jester who is already visiting someone else, what happens?  What do the Trackers see in that case?

Nobody in the chain will know this happened, and the jester will still visit normally, trackers will see who visited the person they watched (maybe I'm using the wrong role)

If you are using watchers, then what happens if the Jester visits the person who the SK then makes the Jester visit?  Does the jester show once or twice?

twice

Trackers see who their target visited. Watchers see who visited their target.
Perhaps you could use two of each?

Or two of 1 and 1 of the other, because it is 1 killer.

[Mephansteras]

What effect does the Jester have on the game if he gets Lynched? Wins but game continues or Wins and everyone else instantly loses? Note that you can have a very short game if it is the latter but that the Jester will have a somewhat minor effect on the game if it is the Former.

Jesters kinda suck as a role, really. I've never really found a good spot for them.

[fillipk]

They win if they are lynched, mostly it's to throw in confusion as to who is the bad guy, however the game is over is either the the town or the sk wins, so the jester is on a time limit.

[origamiscienceguy]

Well, then why would the town care if they are jester? Will the town and scum lose if the jester is lynched?

[Persus13]

Town seems to have an incentive to lynch the jester Day 1 in the current set-up so as to prevent confusion and avoid the risk of the SK being lynched Day 1 causing the Jester to become the SK. Jester is annoying alive and just wastes a day if lynched.