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[notquitethere]

I don't know what it is but I want to be one.

[Leafsnail]

Actually I lie, what's more I think I actually named the Sensei role.

You are BUDDY1's secret admirer. Each night, you give them a random gift.  You can recruit another player to be your pupil in the martial arts. If your target is protown, they will join you and gain the ability to kill. Else, you will die. Actions: (auto)gift recruit

It's clearly nowhere near as good as Lynchproof Super Vice Cop but I think I'd still pick it for the name.

[Shakerag]

Might as well just run a Chaos or an Australian setup from Xylbot at that point.  That would at least make the game more varied rather than pitting a bunch of kill-immune killers against each other.

Yes, but part of the appeal is the chance of getting something horribly broken and insane.  At least it is in my mind. 

Like playing Pokémon with a randomizer.  You want to see just -how- crazy the set-up could be.

[Mephansteras]

Heh. Wonder what would happen if I ran my Paranormal script without any weight balancing in it? The available powers wouldn't get too crazy, but the ratios of everything would be really out of whack.

[Leafsnail]

Yes, but part of the appeal is the chance of getting something horribly broken and insane.  At least it is in my mind. 

Like playing Pokémon with a randomizer.  You want to see just -how- crazy the set-up could be.

That's what Chaos and Australian are - completely randomly generated setups with no attention paid to alignments, balance or sanity.  I once got Unlynchable Death Arsonist (sk) as a role in it  Your proposal would have less variety because most people would just send in very similar roles, and you'd end up with something like Unlynchable Jackie Chan vs Black Guard Chuck Norris vs Recurring Nightmare Commando.

[Shakerag]

Yes, but part of the appeal is the chance of getting something horribly broken and insane.  At least it is in my mind. 

Like playing Pokémon with a randomizer.  You want to see just -how- crazy the set-up could be.

That's what Chaos and Australian are - completely randomly generated setups with no attention paid to alignments, balance or sanity.  I once got Unlynchable Death Arsonist (sk) as a role in it  Your proposal would have less variety because most people would just send in very similar roles, and you'd end up with something like Unlynchable Jackie Chan vs Black Guard Chuck Norris vs Recurring Nightmare Commando.

Ahh, I now I get at what you're saying. 

[notquitethere]

How about a Poker Chaos game then: you get a random selection of five roles and you can pick as many as you like and redraw up to twice. You get the chaotic element as well as a degree of self selection of powers.

Or maybe, Drafting Mafia: everyone gets three hyper-powered powers and they have to give one to the next player in the order at the end of each night.

[Leafsnail]

I think hyper-powerful roles would most likely be less interesting, most players would probably end up immune to everything.

[Mephansteras]

A drafting game in general could be quite interesting.

Everyone gets a set of, say, 5 roles at the start of the game. They pick one of those 5 as their role for the next day/night. The other 4 are passed to the next person in line to use the next day and the person before them passes them their unused 4 roles. This continues until the end of the game.

You'd start the game with no information about who was what role, but as the game went on you'd have more and more information about who could have done what.

You wouldn't be able to have any mafia/town specific roles, though, without giving clues as to who the Mafia are. Hmm...unless you just let the Mafia know that they convert X town role into Y mafia role if they select it. That could work.

[Persus13]

Not sure whether this I the right place to post this, but I feel some sort of mix between the two systems we tend to use for extensions is needed. From playing in the most recent BM (which is still going, so I can't talk much about it), I feel that a combination is needed, because sometimes you need an extend and everyone is lurking. Here's my proposes extend system.

1/3 of players who are active (have posted in the last 24 hours, as usual weekends don't count?) needed to extend
In addition, in case of RL issues, a player can PM the GM asking for a 24 extension and giving reasons.

[mastahcheese]

I think that sounds pretty reasonable.

I also really like the concept that's been used a couple times where people have their own personal extensions.

[notquitethere]

I like personal extensions and short, snappy days. Keeps everyone on their toes.

[flabort]

Spoiler: New Idea (click to show/hide)

Forest Mafia:
When one is killed or lynched, they are lumberjacked, knocked over.

They are then stumped. They may still post, but may not vote for other players... that are above them. See, when players are killed, they are deleveled. Players of X level may vote for players of Y-Z levels, and their powers may afect the others, but.... you know what? Table time.


Level | May vote for | May power target | Flavor
Five  | Five, Four   | Five to Three    | Full Tree
Four  | Four, Three  | Five to Two      | Felled
Three | Three, Two   | Four to One      | Limbed
Two   | Two, One     | Three to One     | Bucked
One   | One          | Two, One         | Lumber
Zero  | Not Aplicable| Not Aplicable    | Sawdust

The rotten trees (scum) get a night kill PER LEVEL. If there is a rotten tree on level five, one on level two, and one on level one, then they have 3 night kills over all. Other trees will have night kills, too; all kills count as powers for targeting.

Day kills, aka the lynch, delevel by twice as much because the lumberjacks are awake. There are also two lynches per day, everyone gets two (different) votes. Night kills are underhanded techniques like waking up a lumberjack or doing the dirty work yourself.

The goal of the forest (town) is to send the rotten trees to where they can't hurt them anymore. If the rotten trees are unable to target the forest, such as being deleveled out of reach or any remaining good trees, the forest wins. The goal of the Rotten trees is to be where the forest can't vote for them all; such as, if one rotten tree is still level five when there are no town trees left at that level, the rotten trees win.

Up to somebody else to balance the roles and run if they like the idea enough, based on the idea of a Tree Stump. Where everybody will be one at some point.

[mastahcheese]

Sounds like an interesting concept.

I may suggest reducing the number of levels, to keep the game from dragging on too long, however, although maybe that won't be a problem with the multiple night kills and lynches.

[Leafsnail]

That seems ludicrously unwinnable for the town.