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fire emblem: waifu roulette

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fire emblem: fates except with even more weird gimmicks

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fire emblem: who even knows

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Total Members Voted: 12

[Trapezohedron]

Gunter is the worst worst Jeigan the series has featured ever, at least on Revelation. You're expected to use him to tank a few hits... except on Revelation, he returns to you quite early with his early-game stats and lackluster growths. In conquest at least, you regain him with better stats, but in Revelation? You're soon ditching him after Chapter 8.

[JoshuaFH]

Yeah, I never used Gunter. His only possible redeeming feature is his so-so personal skill which synergizes with the MC, and the fact that he's a good promoted unit that gives good bonuses to pair-ups.

[Tawa]

Gunter is the worst worst Jeigan the series has featured ever, at least on Revelation. You're expected to use him to tank a few hits... except on Revelation, he returns to you quite early with his early-game stats and lackluster growths. In conquest at least, you regain him with better stats, but in Revelation? You're soon ditching him after Chapter 8.

The exact reason I want to grind him up to a god unit after beating the game

I thought he was implemented very well, though. [Dying three chapters in] on Birthright and disappearing for a while everywhere else was a surprisingly good twist that helped the otherwise really weird and poorly-storytold early-game not completely suck. [Being a lategame boss on Revelation helps, too.]

EDIT:

Spoiler: Joke at Takumi's expense? Joke at Takumi's expense. (click to show/hide)

EDIT2:

Spoiler: Nohrrin's enemies in a nutshell (click to show/hide)

[Tawa]

Bumping to ask a question:
Does Gunter ever gain the ability to support in Revelation? Or is he permanently locked out of them for no reason? I spoiled myself on [him being possessed by Anankos and all] on accident and figured that was why; [after Chapter 26 and Corrin and Azura beat/sing the Anankos out of him] does he learn to talk to others again?

[SOLDIER First]

Nope. No supports in Revelation.

[Tawa]

I mean no offense, but have you seen that with your own eyes, or is it hearsay?

[SOLDIER First]

*Gunter cannot have support conversations/gain support bonuses in Revelation

[Tawa]

*Gunter cannot have support conversations/gain support bonuses in Revelation

I noticed that; the reason I was asking is because Serenes Forest implies otherwise. :v I guess I'll just find out in a couple chapters, I'm on 24 right now.

Thanks anyway!

[SOLDIER First]

You're welcome, and sorry for not bothering to include an end quote tag in there that messed up your post.

[Tawa]

Nope.

Finished Revelation earlier today. Holy crap, is that last level a doozy.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

First, you have to kill both of Anankos's arms. While you do this, Anankos likes to look down at the people near his arms and cast some STR-based bastardized Brynhildr. Then you have to kill his face, which is roughly the same.

Then without warning his face pops out after you kill him and you have to kill that too. At the very least Anankos has the courtesy to not attack on the enemy phase immediately after.

Unexpectedly, my best unit at the end there was probably Benny. By having him wear Silas like a backpack his General-induced lower MOV is compensated for, and more importantly his DEF got bumped up to around 50. The two of them more or less soloed the final boss's right arm by using a Venge Naginata and some vulneraries.

Spoiler: On Fates as a whole (click to show/hide)

That was a good Fire Emblem game. Er, good 3 Fire Emblem games.

The gameplay was top-notch. The refined Pair-Up was a lot of fun, and since you can plan around it instead of Awakening's chance-based system it adds a lot to the depth of the gameplay. I wasn't sure about unbreakable weapons at first, but they prevent a lot of the annoying micromanagement in between battles; speaking of which, I really appreciated the return of S-ranked weapons. My Castle was fun, too (although it obviously exists outside of the story.)

The soundtrack and graphics were amazing. The pre-rendered cutscenes and Revelation's final boss deserve special mention in the graphics department; the music of each route fit it perfectly, and Lost in Thoughts All Alone was beautiful.

The story... depends. Birthright had the usual story for a Fire Emblem game, but it was what was offered and was a good narrative anyway. Conquest... we were promised a "nuanced story" and got Chapter 15. It was okay, but silliness like that dragged it down; I suppose it was inevitable that with three stories one would get the short end of the stick, but I also feel its story wouldn't have seemed quite as bad if the story hadn't been hyped up quite as much. Revelation was great, IMO. The theme of Corrin's willingness to trust others was surprisingly well-done.

In conclusion? There's a lot of detractors, but you made another damn fine game, IntSys.

[Trapezohedron]

Spoiler: Plot Spoilers (click to show/hide)

I still think Corrin is quite a stupid trusting individual who only managed to gain the trust of others due to his Devil's luck.

It's what grates Conquest anyway, since his luck there ain't quite as good. "Oh looky stop fighting we're going to fight air monsters because wopps reasons!"

And everyone is like nope. And he tries it again, and everyone else is nope, but much much quieter.

But yeah, I actually do like Anankos Final Boss form, because compared to Grima who merely summons flunkies on his back, Anankos actually fires supercharged plasma at you, that and he's genuinely hard but not unbeatable (lolol Ryoma Emblem). Guy requires you to understand the pair up mechanics to shield yourself from damage.

[Tawa]

Spoiler: Plot Spoilers (click to show/hide)

But yeah, I actually do like Anankos Final Boss form, because compared to Grima who merely summons flunkies on his back, Anankos actually fires supercharged plasma at you, that and he's genuinely hard but not unbeatable (lolol Ryoma Emblem). Guy requires you to understand the pair up mechanics to shield yourself from damage.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Definitely. Probably my favorite FE final boss thus far, definitely better than stuff like Formortiis the Oneroundable and Julius "Do You Have Julia? No? Goodbye".

Awakening Endgame was probably the pinnacle of what was wrong with Awakening's maps; it was a wide open space full of enemies where the point was for you to just have units good enough to fight them off long enough for Chrom to destroy Grima. You didn't need tactics, you just needed to know that the beefy guys go on the outside of the unit-wall, the squishy guys go on the inside, and everyone needs to have tough weapons.

Revelation Endgame is probably one of the pinnacles of what's right with Fates' maps; you had to think about unit positioning and decide who needs to take on what part of the boss while keeping an eye on the bigger picture to make sure no healers or squishy backups get killed by reinforcements. It avoided the pitfalls of each route's map design, really; it only throws one real curveball at you, and gives you time to react to it besides (cough cough C-10), lowmanning with just Ryoma or whatever probably won't make it easier (cough cough B-27), and while there's a sort of meta-gimmick that there's four straight bosses in the level, it doesn't have any sudden new mechanics with Dragon Veins or whatever (cough cough basically all of Revelation.)

Also, Anankos is currently on record as the toughest single entity in any Fire Emblem game, ever, having a grand total of 262 HP and 268 on Lunatic. I thought that really captured the feeling of fighting a god.

Speaking of Dragon Veins, I hope something in the vein (heh) of those returns in the next game. The map not being completely static was a huge game-changer that really helps make the gameplay as good as it is.

EDIT:

Spoiler: OTP (click to show/hide)

Achieved through the logical extension of the old "Chrom? Sounds foreign." joke.

[Nighthawk]

*Sigh*

Putting off Conquest chapter 17 for now. Not because I can't beat it (my Great Knight and General take 0 damage even WITH debuffs) but because it's going to be a tedious waste of my time. The only good strategy here is to put my tanks at chokepoints with javelins and poke the enemies while taking no damage until all of them are dead.

A lot of the levels in Fates are very well designed... but not all of them. This one, with its absurd number of ninjas and tiny corridors, is complete and utter stupid.

[JoshuaFH]

Yeah, pretty much any map that has a lot of Ninjas is going to force you to be extremely cautious as you approach them, to ensure they can't score debuffs and multiple attacks on your weaker characters.

[Tawa]

Oh, the ninja death cave. Hated that place, it's one of the nasty Conquest levels where the level is more annoying than challenging.

Man, all both of the Mokushu levels are lame. There's the spike pit forest that they use in Revelation and Birthright which is both annoying and tedious because the spike pits slow you down, deal scratch damage, and just kind of irritate you overall, and then there's the ninja cave here.

Kotaro can go jump into one of his own spike pits.