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fire emblem: waifu roulette

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fire emblem: fates except with even more weird gimmicks

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fire emblem: who even knows

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Total Members Voted: 12

[SOLDIER First]

Birthright is kind of like Awakening. It's not too hard, and there's plenty of opportunities to grind for money and EXP. Conquest is less easy; there's limited EXP and cash, so you can't really brute-force the campaign, to quote Game Informer. That, and its lack of "kill everyone" maps in favor of capturing buildings or defending a certain point, make it the "harder" campaign.

[JoshuaFH]

Birthright is kind of like Awakening. It's not too hard, and there's plenty of opportunities to grind for money and EXP. Conquest is less easy; there's limited EXP and cash, so you can't really brute-force the campaign, to quote Game Informer. That, and its lack of "kill everyone" maps in favor of capturing buildings or defending a certain point, make it the "harder" campaign.

Yeah, the split in gameplay is meant to appeal to either Oldschool or 'newer' FE fans. If you liked the challenge and forced linearity of FE's 1-7, like me, then Conquest was built for that demographic. if you like how they eased up on difficulty and allowed grinding in Fire Emblem 8: Sacred Stones and beyond, then the more casual Birthright is probably for you. I plan on beating Conquest, then beating Birthright as my victory lap.

And as Sirus and Tawarochir are soon going to find out, the absence of grinding isn't going to be a big deal, they're both coming up on a mission that has more enemies than can be killed. *evil laughter*

[SOLDIER First]

and rhajat isn't in conquest so it's objectively terrible

[Aklyon]

Birthright first it is, then. Sacred Stones was pretty great.

[JoshuaFH]

PSA: Under certain circumstances, some enemies are cheaters. They can attack from 2 spaces with a 1-range sword, or a bow user can attack from up close with a bow. I won't mention the context for this information, just always be sure to check the battle forecast. This cheating isn't abused, it's only in niche circumstances to make sure you don't break the game, as I was so bold to try.

[SirAaronIII]

Haha, getting my ass beat on chapter 5 hard. Maybe I should turn it back down to normal.

[Sirus]

PSA: Under certain circumstances, some enemies are cheaters. They can attack from 2 spaces with a 1-range sword, or a bow user can attack from up close with a bow. I won't mention the context for this information, just always be sure to check the battle forecast. This cheating isn't abused, it's only in niche circumstances to make sure you don't break the game, as I was so bold to try.

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You're talking about that bow-wielding brother in Chapter 10, aren't you? That brutal defense mission. I was coming up on the final turn when Azura died >_<

I kinda doubt it, but are those two retainers of his recruitable? I pretty much just stayed away from them.

[JoshuaFH]

PSA: Under certain circumstances, some enemies are cheaters. They can attack from 2 spaces with a 1-range sword, or a bow user can attack from up close with a bow. I won't mention the context for this information, just always be sure to check the battle forecast. This cheating isn't abused, it's only in niche circumstances to make sure you don't break the game, as I was so bold to try.

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You're talking about that bow-wielding brother in Chapter 10, aren't you? That brutal defense mission. I was coming up on the final turn when Azura died >_<

I kinda doubt it, but are those two retainers of his recruitable? I pretty much just stayed away from them.

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You got it right, the ability to attack from close range is just there to make sure you don't break the story. When you fight him in a later chapter, that ability is conspicuously removed.

But I really loved that mission, it had me sweating to the very last turn.

About his retainers, I don't believe they're recruitable, I believe that in the same vein as your Nohrian sister's retainers will join you, those ones would join you in the Birthright part.

[Tawa]

Spoiler: Speaking of Conquest 10 (click to show/hide)

I'm stuck on that now after managing to grapple with the reinforcements in 9. I can reliably make it to turn 7 but get killed every time thereabouts.

Currently, my strategy is to send Corrin and his maid over to the left side to deal with the fighters over there. Niles can't handle the shuriken-wielders, so I have him man the ballista over to the right. Arthur and, um, the cavalier take out the archers who spawn on the right and try to draw pegasus knight fire from there. Camilla handles the left breach in the main wall, while, uh, the knight is paired up with somebody and handles the right breach. Most of my deaths come from the mercenary that comes with Camilla getting shanked by an oni fighter or pegasus knight after Takumi dries up the ocean (what).

Did I miss something? Am I just getting RNG screwed? (I am not happy with that knight's HP growths. I hope she's not Meg 2.0.)
Oh, and I managed to capture and recruit a level 12 Spear Fighter from Hoshido.

EDIT: Fixed typos. How did I misspell "fire" as "flier"?

[JoshuaFH]

Spoiler: Speaking of Conquest 10 (click to show/hide)

I'm stuck on that now after managing to grapple with the reinforcements in 9. I can reliably make it to turn 7 but get killed every time thereabouts.

Currently, my strategy is to send Corrin and his maid over to the left side to deal with the fighters over there. Niles can't handle the shuriken-wielders, so I have him man the ballista over to the right. Arthur and, um, the cavalier take out the archers who spawn on the left and try to draw pegasus knight flier from there. Camilla handles the left breach in the main wall, while, uh, the knight is paired up with somebody and handles the right breach. Most of my deaths come from the mercenary that comes with Camilla getting shanked by an oni fighter or pegasus knight after Takumi dries up the ocean (what).

Did I miss something? Am I just getting RNG screwed? (I am not happy with that knight's HP growths. I hope she's not Meg 2.0.)
Oh, and I managed to capture and recruit a level 12 Spear Fighter from Hoshido.

I completed Chapter 10 on my first try, through a bit of luck and a LOT of improvisation, here's the rough account from memory of how I did it if you don't mind being told what to do:

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I had Mozu at this point, she's optional so I don't know if you picked her up.

I had Elise use her free time at the start to grab the unguarded houses at the top of the stage. I had arthur, Sila, and Jakob crack open the barricade and start handling the guys coming in from the left, while Niles and Nyx (Odin was dead to me at this point) manned the turret and started weakening the groups of guys all around. The fighters on the far left can be ignored as they crack open the top left side, Camille with Selena and Baruka will come just in time, and Selena + Nyx can defeat the weakened fighters handily.

It's a while before archers start coming in from the top-right, so just focus all your guys up front. Effie, your knight and my favorite character so far actually, can pair up with anybody (I used Mozu, in this case) and just stand in the chokepoint on the right side of your barricade, and she'll soak up all the hits from the fighters coming in from the front-right, give her a Vulnerary cause she isn't going to be using her turns attacking, just standing in that choke and preventing people from walking in.

Once the archers start coming in from the top right, I just had my Main Protag solo them all no problem.

Camille and Baruka can make short work of all the Pegasus fights, and in fact Camille can pretty much solo all the Spearmen and Ninjas on the left side, which is a huge help. If she can, have her hunt down all Pegasi cause they'll flank you if they can.

Once the ocean is dried up, pull all your guys in past the barrier and focus on protecting the Goal Zone, cause now there's no physical barrier besides your bodies stopping enemies from just walking right into it, and this is the point where both more and stronger enemies are going to be flooding in from all sides. I don't have a concrete strategy for the last 3-4 turns, other than make judicious use of chokepoints, barriers, pairing up weaker characters with stronger ones once there's literally no more room to run away, and using the Freeze Staff on key enemies in order to stop them from advancing on you at crucial moments.

Good luck.

I'm on Chapter 14 right now, but I'm putting it off for now cause I've been splurging on FE for almost my entire 3 day weekend off of work now.

Question though: I actually haven't used the Prisoner system at all, so I was curious how it worked, I just didn't want to put any time or resources into something that might wind up sucking anyway, cause from the sounds of it, just having generic no-name characters doesn't sound very appealing. I want to know how you think of it.

[SOLDIER First]

Question though: I actually haven't used the Prisoner system at all, so I was curious how it worked, I just didn't want to put any time or resources into something that might wind up sucking anyway, cause from the sounds of it, just having generic no-name characters doesn't sound very appealing. I want to know how you think of it.

It's not having generic no-name characters, it's having disposable infantry in the form of generic no-name characters. Why send a valuable asset into possible death when you can send Level 12 Spear Fighter into certain death, but whittle the enemy enough to take down with someone else?

[Tawa]

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You can also capture certain boss characters, mostly paralogue bosses.

[Sirus]

Question though: I actually haven't used the Prisoner system at all, so I was curious how it worked, I just didn't want to put any time or resources into something that might wind up sucking anyway, cause from the sounds of it, just having generic no-name characters doesn't sound very appealing. I want to know how you think of it.

It's not having generic no-name characters, it's having disposable infantry in the form of generic no-name characters. Why send a valuable asset into possible death when you can send Level 12 Spear Fighter into certain death, but whittle the enemy enough to take down with someone else?

Well, because sending a generic no-name in
A) takes up a valuable unit slot
B) wastes precious EXP that your better characters could use instead

[SOLDIER First]

You're speaking about Conquest, right? I assume so.
.....Birthright > Conquest because [not Tharja] is in Birthright, and also you can grind for EXP in Birthright. God knows I'll need to.

[Trapezohedron]

You're speaking about Conquest, right? I assume so.
.....Birthright > Conquest because [not Tharja] is in Birthright, and also you can grind for EXP in Birthright. God knows I'll need to.

[spoiler]Not Tharja is implied to be a reincarnation of Tharja.

Talk about Yandere THE FOURTH WALL WILL NOT CEASE HER ADVANCE TO LOCATE WHOEVER POSSESSES THE PROTAGONIST'S RANK