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Which upcoming/recently-released game has you most hyped?

fire emblem: waifu roulette
- 2 (16.7%)
fire emblem: fates except with even more weird gimmicks
- 5 (41.7%)
fire emblem: who even knows
- 5 (41.7%)

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JoshuaFH

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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #900 on: August 03, 2016, 03:35:53 pm »

Yeah, Carnie's insistence on nonviolence (and contrived ability to fight without killing. Like, seriously, this isn't Rurouni Kenshin where the MC can whoop people's ass with what is effectively a blunt metal bar and not ever inflict fatal injuries of any kind ever) detracts from the story.

Weirdly enough, even though Conquest's story is much stupider in terms of incoherent personal motivations and just plain irrationally bad planning on the MC's part, it makes the Hoshido's motivations very crystal clear and justified in how angry they are with her. Crabman's cutscene near the end of conquest is definitely one of the best.

Unfortunately this is the Chucky Cheese ball pit style of story telling that Nintendo wants to rely on in order to not offend the family friendly image that all their games need to have. Gone are the days of rampant incest, overt rape, attempted genocide, slavery, a villain that is very clearly the Anti-Christ, and marital infidelity being OK subject matter in a videogame. #JustFE4Things
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #901 on: August 03, 2016, 03:45:02 pm »

The core issue of the game is that there is no grey morality. Garondorf is a one-dimensional villain whose evil is borderline cartoonish, whereas Mommy Sue is so perfect that she keeps all the nasty evil Nohrians away. Meanwhile, Corrin isn't allowed to be the bad guy, and the narrative rewrites itself so he/she is never at fault. If Garon's actions were justifiable, Mikoto or whatever her name was wasn't so sparkly and perfect, and Corrin was allowed to be wrong, both games would have been better.

Arguably, if Revelations didn't exist, Conquest and Birthright would be better, as there would be no need for things like leaving tons of plot questions unanswered to be resolved in the third route, the obligatory golden ending, or Garon [being possessed by Anankos instead of having a real motivation]. Plus, IntSys and Nintendo could better avoid accusations of money-grubbing with only 2 routes.

Not to mention that such a thing would be much closer to the original inspiration, choosing between Arran and Samson in FE1.
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #902 on: August 05, 2016, 09:38:48 pm »

Hmmm... just noticed, Avatar and Azure could be Zoroastians...
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #903 on: August 08, 2016, 12:44:44 pm »

... I'm not sure I follow.

Zoroastrians believe in two godlike beings of supreme good and evil constantly fighting each other, right? But from what I've seen of Fates, Corn and Azura basically never mention religion affiliations of any kind. Heck, the closest Fire Emblem comes to mentioning religion is Chrom saying, "Gods...!" when he's upset.

So... yeah. I don't follow.

(Although it's possible I haven't gotten far enough in Revelations yet to understand, so if that's the case please excuse my ignorance.)
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« Reply #904 on: August 08, 2016, 12:57:38 pm »

Round-about way of saying they can do the funky Incest.
Perhaps Lannister would have been more appropriate, since Fire Emblem doesn't do Polygamy.
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #905 on: August 08, 2016, 01:10:26 pm »

Aaaah, now I getcha.

And yeah, Lannister might have been a bit more transparent. :P
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #906 on: August 08, 2016, 01:18:51 pm »

So I recently discovered both this playthrough and this thread, and thought the more hardcore crowd might appreciate the playthrough.
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« Reply #907 on: August 08, 2016, 01:31:35 pm »

For extra background, FE5 is widely considered to be the hardest Fire Emblem in the series as well. It's the only Fire Emblem that has an honest-to-god cheat code you can input in the start menu that gives all your characters the Elite (Double Experience) skill, and the game is still a bastard. I haven't beaten it, though that's because I hadn't stumbled upon a complete translation of it when I was still in the throes of my FE craze.

IIRC it's also the very last game that was released for the Super Famicom.
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« Reply #908 on: August 08, 2016, 02:08:53 pm »

Indeed. As a note, that playthrough is in Paragon mode, to get units to level 10 as fast as possible to actually be possible to SSS-rank, but it's still an absurd accomplishment. Also, the entire runthrough isn't up yet; it's currently at 17 of 24+final. The playthrough is complete, it's just getting cut down and commented.
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #909 on: August 08, 2016, 03:15:08 pm »

So, I'm just up to the Branching of Fates thing in FEF, just got it yesterday.

"BROTHER YOU MUST CHOOSE HOSHIDO"

"NO BROTHER CHOOSE NOHR"

"here I think I can change your mind! PAY US MONEY and you can choose Hoshido!"

"...coming to Nohr is free, BROTHER"

"That's not really much of a choice is it?"

For a game that sells itself on the branching storyline, the fact they went Pokemon style and seperated the two games as well as put the other two paths behind $26AUD paywalls is kinda shitty. I hope Nohr's path has enough content in it to justify the price of the cartridge.

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« Reply #910 on: August 08, 2016, 03:33:05 pm »

I choose you, PAYWALL! Paywall, use charm! It's not very effective, the fanservice isn't good enough. Damn you localization!

But for reals, I thought they were all worth the money, despite my many complaints with the game, it's the best and most interesting FE in ages.
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« Reply #911 on: August 08, 2016, 03:43:40 pm »

I choose you, PAYWALL! Paywall, use charm! It's not very effective, the fanservice isn't good enough. Damn you localization!

But for reals, I thought they were all worth the money, despite my many complaints with the game, it's the best and most interesting FE in ages.

It's not even the fanservice, though. I just found it irritating that my ability to choose was dictated by my wallet. I know that it's a marketing thingy, but it's supremely irritating from a gameplay perspective.

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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #912 on: August 08, 2016, 07:17:30 pm »

Well, if paywall's your issue, there are ways to ahem, customize your 3ds.

Which is only really deterred by your morality and firmware version I guess.
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Re: Fire Emblem
« Reply #913 on: August 08, 2016, 07:20:06 pm »

Additionally, while it is silly from a gameplay standpoint, most Fire Emblem fans get the game with the intention of playing all three paths, so that issue generally gets ignored.

If they were smart they would have made the first six chapters free to play, then allowed you to pick which side you wanted and pay then. But... eh.
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« Reply #914 on: August 08, 2016, 07:21:43 pm »

They actually did that in one of the Japanese versions, I think.
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