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[lijacote]

Ah. I believe I dodged an earthquake bullet there... I wonder where the caster went after retreating. I'd also remind you that I said that we have no chance of defeating Jomon's resources alone. I still hold that to be true. Temporary, fleeting and transient victories. What's that he just threw at Pangaea now, more than half a thousand troops? How many of you can do that?

[E. Albright]

If I may jump in and grab everyone's attention for a moment (well, everyone's but lijacote's and Margrave's), 401 appears to need a sub for R'lyeh. It's not a great position; while it's the most advanced nation on the map, still has six forts, and has several major armies led by elemental royalty...  three of the six forts (to include the capital) are under siege, two of those major armies are bottled up in Argathan SC-besieged forts, and the third is in a standoff with a major Mictlani army. So while we need a sub, it might not be for long... or it might be if you're wily enough; R'lyeh still has enough going for them that going AI would be unfair (in a good way) to Margrave and me, and could quite conceivably come back and do some damage.

Any suck- erm, any takers?

[Culise]

Requesting 24 hour extension, please; hopefully, this will be the last time it's necessary.

[Delta Foxtrot]

24h coming up.

[Culise]

Turn submitted right in the nick of time.  Orders are probably terrible, but the best I could do with the time I had.  Sorry again about the repeated delays. >_<

[USEC_OFFICER]

Ugh... Sorry about the repeated delays guys. I'll get it in ASAP. It's just become a bit of a chore, you know? Not all that fun or exciting anymore. Which I will admit is rather ironic given how we're in WWI right now, but... *shrug* Sorry about everything again. I'll try to be better in the future.

[lijacote]

Don't worry too much about it, just don't push yourself too hard. Just a game etc.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Ugh... Can I ask for a sub? I'm just holding up the game at this point trying to muster up the enthusiasm to keep playing, and I'm sure that's draining/annoying everyone else too. Sorry about that, everyone.

[Delta Foxtrot]

It's either sub or AI. How's everyone else feeling about AI? I do think Caelum has enough crap to throw around that AI would be disruptive. For me at least. Being a close neighbour and ally at the moment. Even so, I'd be fine setting it to AI soon-ish. No sense dragging this game on for another week or two looking futilely for a sub, right? I'd suggest we wait until end of the week for a sub.

So, here's the gameplan as of now:
postpone for a few days, look for a sub. In case no sub is found, turn Caelum AI and keep playing.

[Bluerobin]

How much time's left in the game, would you guess? I could potentially take over, but I'm not sure I could go for another month and a half if it was going that long.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Depends on how the war against Jomon goes. It's entirely possible for them to claim enough thrones and win the game. But if they get smacked down... Hard to say.

[Delta Foxtrot]

How much time's left in the game, would you guess? I could potentially take over, but I'm not sure I could go for another month and a half if it was going that long.

You could backstab me in a few turns and end it for me swiftly. USEC_OFFICER was backing me to the end, but his end is now. If you'd side with me, it could go on a bit longer. depends on how lucky/skillful play our opponents show. Bogarus is definitely the top dog in the game currently. Not by a longshot, but he is and he doesn't have to contend with half the world on his front yard.

Until this turn it was 3v2. You can turn it into a 4v1. After you kill me off? Bogarus is the obvious top dog, Abysia has delusions of grandeur. Neither Pan nor Caelum are really in a position to push for ascension (but what do I know?). Bogarus and Abysia will fight for ultimate victory, whether or not they join up and kill off Pan and Caelum before that is up in the air though.

The short of it:
make it a 4v1 and kill me to submission in 2-10 turns. Followed by a war of indeterminate length against bogarus and/or abysia. It probably won't take long. Bogarus knows what he's doing and is gaining momentum so there's a possibility of a quick steamroll for him. But then again people said that about me a dozen or so turns ago.
Join me and we could be arm wrestling this well past summer holidays.

Oh yeah we're on turn 74 if it didn't get mentioned anywhere.

[Culise]

I think it could be a long haul.  Jomon is at war with three or four of the five other nations, and there is absolutely no indication that he will go down quickly.  Of the remaining five countries, I think it's Caelum and Bogarus that share potential second-best status, while Abysia and Pangaea are largely gadflies around the fringes and Midgard goes largely unnoticed.  If we do turn the tide against Jomon, the game will likely go on for far longer, but they only need a couple more thrones to win. 

If you can't sub, though, and if we can't find another, I'm more than willing to call it for Jomon. 

[Delta Foxtrot]

It's definitely Bogarus' game right now. Give a few turns and I might be able to swing the pendulum again, but at this precise moment, I'm losing. At the very best I'd agree to a gentlemanly shared ascendancy with Bogarus, but I doubt bogarus and abysia would stand for that

Is as I said, 3v2 and we might be juggling until christmas. 4v1 and I'm quite sure of my doom. I have enough stuff to masterfully obliterate one or two of you. That's why I'm still alive. But 4v1? No way.


Oh yeah Midgård is still alive too. They have one fort that's been sieged by barbarians for a few turns now.

[lijacote]

I'd like to point out that Caelum and Bogarus are not at war. At least, I haven't done anything aggressive against them! There's two wars here, I'd say: the war to end Jomonese hegemony between Jomon and Pangaea, Abysia, Bogarus, and the war between Caelum and Abysia.

At least a month, I'd say, to go. With turns resolving every three days or so, and with no one being within easy reach of throne victory (anymore! ) without being involved in a war against pretty much everyone, this game could take a while still.

It's strange how power relations change so quickly. Maybe it's only appearances that change! Perhaps Jomon is still the strongest, the most eligible to win -- per chance my topdoggedness is as transient as was his appearance of such! Mayhap this is only a lie to take attention away from himself. Jomon never lies, though, that's what they said...