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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2013, 03:24:15 am »

It's been a long, long time since I played either of them. Out of the two Ocarina of Time is the most memorable for me. It was the first big 3d adventure game that I had ever played. You could do all sorts of things I'd never seen in video games before. You could fly around a 3d environment with a hookshot, you could speed across a sprawling landscape on a horse. Perhaps Majora's Mask did things better, I really don't remember, but it could never match the "wow" factor of Ocarina of Time simply because Ocarina of Time came first and broke a lot of ground that hadn't been broken before.
I'm starting to wonder if I just never got into OoT because it was nothing new in genre when I played it. I had already played things like Spyro and Mario 64, so another 3D adventure game was nothing new.

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2013, 03:35:04 am »

I'm not sure what all this "pressure" is regarding the time limit. I've never felt any pressure with the time limit. There's two hours and 42 minutes to get stuff done. I only ever see the game over when I want to.

Hint: Inverted song of time. Play it backwards, you get triple the time in one run-through.

There really isn't an imposed time limit. The time limit is more a way to make every single NPC have a believable schedule with tiny memory constraints than anything.

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2013, 03:36:45 am »

Majora's Mask is the greatest Legend of Zelda game ever made, by far. It is so gloriously fucked-up, I love it. This is not to say that the others are bad, but MM just enters a whole other level.

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2013, 03:43:05 am »

Ooh, ranking lists.


Link Between Worlds is number one because it's somehow completely different from Link to the Past despite having similar control and a near-identical overworld. It's its own game and it's the best one yet. Dungeons are unique, controls are perfectly solid. Main gripe is that it's a bit easy; I haven't died once in my entire time playing, and I've just beaten my fifth dungeon (total, first dark world dungeon).

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2013, 03:48:25 am »

Ages was better than both of them.

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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2013, 04:15:25 am »

I liked Ocarina better. I really felt that Majora had... Like. The potential to be better, but for some reason it just never jelled with me. Probably because of the pointless feel and such, which is likely a personal problem. Or it might be because I played Ocarina around the time it came out and Majora like two years ago.

Although these days if having to chose a zelda game to play I would probably go for a handheld one.
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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2013, 09:42:26 pm »

As a kid playing both I'd pick OoT, but now I'd say MM is the better game, ironically both situations being because of the 3 day cycle mostly.

It IS annoying to play with (which is why as a kid I hated it), but as some other people have said what it let them do with the game is incredible, as unlike anything else I've seen the world actually feels alive since every NPC is off doing their own things during those 3 days and it changes between the days, even just little things. For instance, if I remember right, the monkey held by the dekus gets moved out into the center of the room near the end of the 3rd day, stuff like that. That and how things change depending on what you do is really cool (everything to do with the ranch).

That, and as I'm older I appreciate the atmosphere of the game so much more, it's so dark and gloomy if you start looking beneath the surface. Best example I can think of are the sisters at the ranch, where the older one promises the younger one she can try some of their alcoholic (not explicitly stated but damn well implied) product near the end of the 3rd day. On the surface, nice. Thinking about it, the older sister knows the end is coming and she's going to let her younger sister get drunk beforehand to make it easier. I may be completely overthinking it, sure, but having such a strong atmosphere that actually allows stuff like that is awesome.

Not to mention I think gameplay-wise MM is probably the best Zelda. The dungeons are large and maze-like, and stone tower temple is pretty damn awesome with the flipping, and the bosses are easily the best in any Zelda game as they can be beaten in multiple ways and provide an actual threat (both of which are generally lacking in later Zelda games, especially the first bit).

Overall MM comes out on top for me, but only on stuff I appreciate now that I didn't care about as a kid really.
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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2013, 04:56:43 am »

There's a fun bit of theory that Link died in the Lost Woods at the end of OoT and became a Stalfos, and MM is him coming to terms with the inevitability of death and being dead himself. It's kind of a compelling argument, actually.

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2013, 07:00:08 am »

It's fairly simple nostaliga factor - People will love whatever did something FIRST over something which did the same thing BETTER.

That's the reason for so many people loving the originals/prequels of games and movies.

Simply put- I played Ocarina of Time, and loved it. And it's always going to sit in the back of my mind as something that truly made my childhood.
I also played Majora's Mask, and I enjoyed it as well. This was only helped by the fact that Ocarina of Time had a simple, easy storyline which was good for when I was a child, and Majora's Mask was a lot more intricate and dark, which appealed to me when I was older. (Maybe too dark - the "Gidbo in the Basement" vibe still sticks with me, in a terrifying/heartwarming way.)
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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2013, 07:12:22 am »

Hey, speaking of Majora's Mask, I'll be streaming it right about now. [/shamelessplug]

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2013, 01:45:00 pm »

It's fairly simple nostaliga factor - People will love whatever did something FIRST over something which did the same thing BETTER.

That's the reason for so many people loving the originals/prequels of games and movies.

Simply put- I played Ocarina of Time, and loved it. And it's always going to sit in the back of my mind as something that truly made my childhood.
I also played Majora's Mask, and I enjoyed it as well. This was only helped by the fact that Ocarina of Time had a simple, easy storyline which was good for when I was a child, and Majora's Mask was a lot more intricate and dark, which appealed to me when I was older. (Maybe too dark - the "Gidbo in the Basement" vibe still sticks with me, in a terrifying/heartwarming way.)

I disagree, somewhat. Ocarina and Link to the Past both are nostalgic as hell for me, but I prefer Majora and Link Between Worlds over each, Majora because it's far more my kind of game (I like interesting characters more than epic stories) and Link Between Worlds because it alleviates some of the main grievances I had with Link to the Past (moving while shooting bow, being able to tell which dungeon rooms you've been in come to mind).

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2013, 01:51:53 pm »

Majora's Mask's levels all seem to be built around the idea of the various stages of loss and the grieving process (in Link's case the loss of Navi) - denial, acceptance etc. The villagers at the start are all in denial of the moon that's going to smack into them.
This is what I'm talking about, MM seems to me to be one of those games which are (I hate sounding pretentious like this, but nothing to be done) bigger than they are, if that makes sense. It's just a game, but it's one of those games that sticks in your head due to how many ways you can interpret it.
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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2013, 02:07:17 pm »

I've heard that in twilight princess...

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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2013, 02:16:32 pm »

I really, really love MM, the more strange and dark story really appears to me.
Nonetheless, I have never actually reached even the second dungeon, much less beaten the game, the time limit just turns me away from the game. I do mean to play it to completion sometime.
OoT just seems, gameplay wise, a little bit less stressful.
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Re: Ocarina or Majora?
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2013, 02:22:13 pm »

It's not a time limit >.<

2 and a half hours is more than enough to complete a dungeon.
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