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I'm clean shes using. I might be in trouble.
« on: December 25, 2013, 04:34:32 pm »

     This girl i went to highschool with that i really had a crush on has been coming around and hanging out. At first it was just sex but now I think i may be getting too close. The thing is shes still using and I've been clean for a while now. I don't wanna delude myself into thinking this is a good idea, but i've been single since my divorce 2 years ago and she is so sweet and beautiful. I don't know if i can handle all the lies and bullshit that comes with it though. Been there done that. But its not like i have a bunch of ladies beating my  door down either. I was just hoping i was immune to these kind of feelings but i guess not. Just curious what you guys think if any of you have ever been in my situation. my life is a little off the wall though.
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2013, 04:58:27 pm »

I haven't been in that situation, but I've got to tell you:

a. Having people think you're awesome is mostly about informing them, subtly, that you're awesome [and then being awesome, but the "why won't anyone even TALK to me" thing is mostly, to my understanding, about what you project rather than what you are]
b. Sweet =/= lies and bullshit
c. Sounds like keeping clean is important to you.  If you think that's going to be hard with her around, you should probably get her out of your life completely.

Look, it sounds like a rebound relationship with a side of desperation and prior addiction to me.  None of those things are really good.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2013, 05:06:08 pm »

It sounds to me like your ideal situation would be if she were to get clean too. I don't know how possible this is, since I don't know what she's taking.  I've been with girls who smoked pot or did ecstasy, but I would not be ok with someone who was on meth or PCP. The best advice I can give you is to carefully go for it, but to make it clean you want to stay clean and that you don't want her bringing drugs back into your life.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2013, 05:10:50 pm »

That's a good point, I wasn't thinking about it that way... since all of the users I know personally would get really, really pissed if I suggested going off.  Think she'd be open to it, OP?
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2013, 05:19:36 pm »

Well she just told me she loved me on facebook. first time. If she were clean (opiate\narcotics) she would be my dream girl. I'm just confused about how i can get her to where I'm at. Thinking about suggesting the methadone clinic to her, but i don't know how she would take it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2013, 05:35:20 pm »

Well, if she loves you and you tell her that she's your dream girl, and then that you would love to be with her if she were clean, I think this might just work out. Go for it!
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2013, 05:45:49 pm »

If, as she seems to, she has genuine feelings for you, then she should understand that you would want her to be clean and be willing to make some kind effort accordingly. Otherwise, this relationship might not be a good one for you, in the long term.

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 05:49:18 pm »

    I guess this is the chance we take with love and relationships. Is it better to pass on it because we cant peer into the crystal ball of the future or to take a chance on being happy. I pretty much gave up on happiness a long time ago. Im just pretty conflicted at the moment. If I can stay strong i think it may work out.
but ...I hate feelings.  ugh.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 06:21:42 pm »

Hmm.  Would you say that you're friends, OP?
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2013, 06:24:33 pm »

yeah. friends. at first yes. now more complicated.
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2013, 06:26:19 pm »

Yeah, then I'd say good luck.  Maybe keep posting as things unfold?
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2013, 07:03:44 pm »

     Sure thing guys. Wouldn't wanna keep everyone guessing lol. I'm in limbo tonight because we're both out of gas. Absence makes the heart grow fonder they say. I'll admit i did listen to Ministry's just one fix on youtube but I don't think it counts as a relapse. More like a "just one fix of that sweet @$$". lol
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2013, 04:23:03 am »

Just curious what you guys think if any of you have ever been in my situation

I've twice been involved girls who took drugs. Once was a short but epic whirlwind of euphoria that ended in tragedy, and the other was a long, comfortable and trusting partnership. Granted, it too did eventually end, but not in tragedy and I don't regret either relationship. I acknowledge that people who take drugs tend to have a certain set of issues. But overall those issues aren't necessarily unmanageable. Not every girl on drugs is a crack whore and not every girl not on drugs is an honorable saint. Personally, as someone who doesn't, "she takes drugs" is not an immediate deal breaker for me.

My own personal worldview may be relevant here. I have a difficult time being very angry over someone "taking drugs " in a country where caffeine and alcohol are ubiquitous and every commercial center has a drugstore. We are are a drug-taking society, and the difference we're really talking about is not whether she does or doesn't take drugs, but whether she takes illegal drugs. And illegality is not such a terrible thing in my worldview. Do you jaywalk? Do you drive over the speed limit? Would you refuse to date someone who did?

If drugs (aspirin, alcohol, nicotine) are morally/philosophically acceptable and law-breaking (jaywalking, speeding) is morally/philosophically acceptable, then why would taking illegal drugs be unacceptable? Law is simply social custom enforced by punishment. Drugs are not illegal. Only an arbitrary list of specific drugs decided on by a group of people I've never met and who didn't ask me, are illegal. This has very little weight in my mind.

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The thing is shes still using and I've been clean for a while now.
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lies and bullshit that comes with it though.

...from the way you've phrased a few things, I wonder if you personally might suffer for being in a relationship with a girl on the particular variety of drugs that happen to be illegal. If you really perceive yourself as "clean" for not using them, and therefore her as being "dirty" because she does...I think it's safe to guess that you probably don't share the worldview I've described above. If for some reason you perceive "lies and bullshit" as something that comes with drug use...I'm guessing you probably have a reason for that perception. It might be a good reason. And if you really feel this way about drugs, that they're "unclean" and that they bring undesirable events into one's life...then choosing to not associate with someone involved with them might be a healthy choice if it keeps those things out of your life.

So I suggest making choices that are appropriate for you rather than appropriate for me.



if she loves you and you tell her that she's your dream girl, and then that
you would love to be with her if she were clean

I offer an opinion: extorting behavior through emotional blackmail is probably more unhealthy than whichever drugs the OP is discussing. Whether it's "I'll be with you if you stop taking drugs" or "I'll be with you if you marry me" or "I'll be with you if you convert to my religion" or any other form of blackmail, I advise against building relationships on this sort of foundation, just like I'd advise against building a skyscraper atop a mined swampland.

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 08:08:59 am »

...from the way you've phrased a few things, I wonder if you personally might suffer for being in a relationship with a girl on the particular variety of drugs that happen to be illegal. If you really perceive yourself as "clean" for not using them, and therefore her as being "dirty" because she does...I think it's safe to guess that you probably don't share the worldview I've described above.
I thought clean was a fairly neutral word for someone that stopped using.

Anyhow, OP, if you were on the same kind of drugs and she's using them around you, you *will* relapse. Just ask her not to do it when you're around and to avoid talking about it. But yeah, I really don't see it working out for you guys in the long run if she doesn't quit on your own (blackmailing her into quitting is a bad idea for reasons LordBucket explained). But that still doesn't mean you can't have a good short-term thing.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2013, 12:23:58 pm »

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