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Sashoke

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300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« on: December 24, 2013, 03:37:26 pm »

200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
Ive been attacked by snatchers and some ambushes but I have yet to be sieged. Which is a bad thing because my current world is empty of metals and Goblonite would really save us a hard time. But no siege will come! All all of my previous worlds they always came within 60-80.
Anyone know whats taking them so long??
« Last Edit: December 25, 2013, 11:22:42 pm by Sashoke »
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Telgin

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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 03:40:48 pm »

It could just be luck.  I believe each season there's a random chance of getting a siege if you qualify.  You might have just missed it each season so far.  How old is the fort?  It's not hard to get 200 dwarves pretty quickly.
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 03:48:01 pm »

Not sure how old it is, I think about 4 years cause if my memory serves me correctly, its been 4 winters.
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 05:22:54 pm »

Also, if the goblin civ is some distance away, they can take a while to get there.

What's your exported wealth? It's the exported wealth that attracts the attention I believe.
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 06:07:40 pm »

Why do so many people complain about no sieges that soon?

First of all, 4 years isn't much. Goblins usually build up over a few years, starting with snatchers and ambushers, more ambushers at once and after that sieges. I usually wouldn't expect a siege before year 5.
Next up, 700.000 wealth isn't much. Some older forts I had easily made 1M of worth each year after the 4th or 5th year and usually had 2M worth by then. This was probably caused by making arms and armor and melting it any time it wasn't masterwork quality and the ridiculous overpricing of roasts. Poor forts may never see many sieges.
Last again time. As mentioned it takes travel time for goblins to get to you. So first you need to become eligible for a siege, then it needs to have built up to that level of hostility, plus your fort needs to be attractive enough as a target for sieges and THEN it needs to get to your fort.
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 08:40:33 pm »

7 years now, over 1 million in wealth, 250 population.
Was just bombarded by 5 ambushes one after another, they hit me when my defenses were down, and hit hard. They managed to take out 6 civilians before my 5 legendary axemen could rush in to save them, they were dealt with swiftly, but then 2 forgotten beasts attacked. They came out of our mines and ravaged the city, total death count of them was around 30 civvies, one soldier. We got em though. It was a poisonous one and a vapor one.

So now my city is kind of in a bad state and our armies weakened and I feel like they're gonna strike me now XD
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 11:52:26 pm »

7 years now, over 1 million in wealth, 250 population.
Was just bombarded by 5 ambushes one after another, they hit me when my defenses were down, and hit hard. They managed to take out 6 civilians before my 5 legendary axemen could rush in to save them, they were dealt with swiftly, but then 2 forgotten beasts attacked. They came out of our mines and ravaged the city, total death count of them was around 30 civvies, one soldier. We got em though. It was a poisonous one and a vapor one.

So now my city is kind of in a bad state and our armies weakened and I feel like they're gonna strike me now XD
Yeah it usually starts with ambushes and then gradually the attacks get stronger and stronger. If you've only got 4 axelords left, you should probably get them some pretty good equipment, or a few reinforcements. A few legendaries is usually enough to deal with most threats, but once you get a demon riding a beak dog leading a hundred bow goblins meat shielded by two dozen cave dragons...
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Re: 200 population and over 700,000 wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 11:22:21 pm »

300 pop and over 2 million accumulated wealth now. No sieges >.> its been 8 years. I'm only getting ambushes every now and then.
Is this possibly a bug?
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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 11:34:41 pm »

Very unlikely to be a bug, but since so little is known about the actual calculations it's hard to be certain.

Really though, even that isn't that outlandish.  I've gone almost 10 years before without seeing sieges and sometimes getting 3 or more ambushes in a season.  Luck of the draw.

One thing you might want to try is to go send a military squad to check the entire map edge.  I once had a fort where dozens of snatchers were stuck in stealth mode at the map edge for some reason.  After I killed them, I started getting ambushes again, and a siege not long after.  I haven't seen it happen in subsequent forts, but it can't hurt to try it.
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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2013, 04:45:33 am »

Finally got a siege!
They haven't come through my gates yet so Im typing this as they contemplate it. They're sitting out in the fields sloooooowly advancing.
Theres 26 swordsman, 1 mace man, and a giant toad.
Im hoping my 5 legendaries can make quick work of them. Wish me luck!
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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2013, 05:40:55 am »

Good luck and I hope the giant toad doesn't lead them into a pond
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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2013, 06:17:14 am »

The giant toad led the goblins into a pond because the leader was riding it XD
I had to go out and kill them. No casualties, all enemy slain :)
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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2013, 04:40:05 pm »

yeah, stupid amphibious mounts

Just hope they never do that when they have 50 bowgobs and 20 lashers. Going out to meet that isn't something I'd wish on anyone.
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Jam a door with its corpse and let all the goblins in. Hey, nobody said it had to be a weapon against your enemies.
Quote from: Frogwarrior
And then everyone melted.

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Re: 300 population and over 2 million wealth but no Goblins!
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 06:07:50 am »

10 years and no sieges? Damn, I must be doing something wrong right because I usually consider myself lucky if I go into the 3rd year without a "hello neighbour" party knocking on my doors.

yeah, stupid amphibious mounts

Just hope they never do that when they have 50 bowgobs and 20 lashers. Going out to meet that isn't something I'd wish on anyone.
You could mod those to not be [PET_EXOTIC] until the bug is fixed. Then again, it's hilarious when the AI bugs unintentionally turn the *SIEGE* into an actual siege, rather than the mindless zerg rush it usually is.
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