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Have few types but with many possible functions for each.  The simpler option

38 (42.2%)

Have many different types that each takes a particular input, for long assembly lines

29 (32.2%)

Have many types, allow using the wrong ones, but using them correctly lets the items have quality levels

23 (25.6%)

Total Members Voted: 69

[Meph]

Good work. I really want to try them out, but that has to wait 2 more months at least.

[IndigoFenix]

More bugfixes.

Also you can now place items in boxes into machines and the items will be taken out of the boxes and processed separately instead of mysteriously vanishing.  Caged creatures passing through machines will automatically be killed and processed by the machine.  The machine also flashes red when a caged creature is killed inside it...I don't know why.  I didn't make it do that.  But it works.

[PiggiesGoMoo]

Does a new world have to be generated for 0.77.5 and 0.77.1 to work? I keep trying to equip my mechanical dragons with turrets and it says they are equipped, but then they just fall off. This happened before and after I copied in .77.5 and .77.1 to my game folder. Also, should the inventory screen for the animal show the equipped armor and turrets?

[IndigoFenix]

Most of the recent changes will not require a new worldgen.  I fixed the animal equipment bug, but I don't think you'll be able to use the particular turrets that fell off unless you write a script that changes their maker race back to gnomes.  (For some reason you can force a dragon into a gnome-sized suit, but if you try and change it to a more suitable size it falls off.  I have no idea why.)

[IndigoFenix]

More bugfixes, and the item sorter can be inverted (so the specified items go straight and the other items go to the side).

[Meph]

Do you have a todo list, something with planned features? I'd be interested to see it, maybe share opinions/ideas.

[IndigoFenix]

Do you have a todo list, something with planned features? I'd be interested to see it, maybe share opinions/ideas.

Not really, at this point I'm pretty much making it up as I go along.  Fine tuning and new toys are always a possibility, but as far as core gameplay mechanics are concerned I've done everything I set out to do and then some.  Of course, this is the first time I actually decided to sit down and play it.  New inspiration often strikes without warning in such cases.

[Meph]

Ok. I was just thinking about what I want to do when I am back in Germany... promoting the Gnomes would be something i'd like to do. They deserve all the recognition they can get, a good manual, a tutorial fort, reddit, all that stuff... simply to get more people playing them. As soon as enough people know about them, they will tell others or read about it. It will be awesome what the community will come up with, in tech-related succession forts and the like.

[IndigoFenix]

That would certainly be welcome.  To be fair, I think my habit of making frequent small updates has discouraged a lot of people.  There is a combination explosion problem with the machines (invalid items typically shut down the whole system unless specifically addressed) although most of these fixes can be done without a new worldgen, so...

[Meph]

I think the main issue is documentation. Nice, easily readable manual with pictures Usually if people dont understand a feature, there is always someone that looks it up in the raws and can explain it on the forum. But if 90% of it is dfhack, you will find a lot fewer people that can read through your druidism for example, and figure out how it works.

The warlocks have similar problems I think. They alienate people because their playstyle is so different, and there a no good example forts to show people how it should/can be done.

[MerkerBenson]

Actually, I avoided gnomes and locks so far because I don't like to constantly restart my game, I like to test all features in one go . Both races are awesome in scope and design and I can barely wait to try them out, but I want some feature stability first.
Atm I have MW 4h, can I patch the gnome plugin to the latest version, or do I need 4i, which has some issues I see?

Cheers

[palu]

There's a few files you have to delete, but yes, you can.

you have to delete a few files if you use 4h.

Tried couple of different worldgens, only get grenade launchers instead of drills on embark

What?  You're not supposed to even have access to grenade launchers on embark.

EDIT: Checked it on my computer, it seems to work fine.  OH!  I changed some of the file names to include a 'z' in them to change the order of the items in the raws.  If you loaded it into the old files, they might not be overwritten, so you might have duplicate raws.

Delete the files item_gnome, inorganic_gnome, and building_gnome if you have them.  These files have been changed to item_z_gnome, inorganic_z_gnome, and building_z_gnome.

Gnomes shouldn't have special weapons unless you build them in-game (they do have access to the dwarven throwing weapons though).

[Meph]

I updated the main mod with 77.6 of the Gnomes. You probably already saw that, just wanted to let you know.

[Avacado]

Yeah, an updated documentation on the gnome equipment that isn't in the manual currently would be nice.

[IndigoFenix]

Update!

Gnomes can now produce alloys at the smelter.  Just the basic ones, though, they aren't as good at metallurgy as dwarves.
They can also convert peat into plastic logs at the screw press.  Plastic is, for all intents and purposes, functionally identical to wood, but with a source of peat and magma you can make as much of it as you want, which is good if you want to build a lot of machines.
There is also a tinkering recipe flowchart in the guide at the bottom of the items page, for those who want it.