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[Shadowlord]

It might help to know what kind of learning - you can find tablet games which are supposed to be educational for very young kids, which for example may name a thing and ask the kid to touch it. Or maybe you want something else, like, say, something that teaches typing or (supposedly) math, or something like SimAnt.

[i2amroy]

Any of the Where in the X is Carmen Sandiego games were usually pretty fun while still being fairly educational.

[Bouchart]

There was a game where Omar Sharif taught you how to play Bridge.

[NJW2000]

I'm curious. What's a good educational game? Not a "you might learn something if you have guidance while you play" game. I want a game where you come out of the game knowing more than you did going in, and that was exactly what the game was designed to do. Are there any good games like that?

"Frog Fractions": http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions/.

I'd call it pretty fnu and educational.

[EnigmaticHat]

I'm curious. What's a good educational game? Not a "you might learn something if you have guidance while you play" game. I want a game where you come out of the game knowing more than you did going in, and that was exactly what the game was designed to do. Are there any good games like that?

Kerbil Space Program.

I would also say Paradox Grand Strategy games are decently educational; they aren't always strictly correct but damn if I don't know far more about history after playing them.  Not what they were intended to do but they serve the function.

I'm curious. What's a good educational game? Not a "you might learn something if you have guidance while you play" game. I want a game where you come out of the game knowing more than you did going in, and that was exactly what the game was designed to do. Are there any good games like that?

"Frog Fractions": http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions/.

I'd call it pretty fnu and educational.

...I agree, somehow.  Although only educational in a very... hard to pin down way.  Mind expanding?  Certainly an experience.

[Delta Foxtrot]

A bit late but relevant to my interests.

I've been hankering for a game that allows you to act as a necromancer or commander of undead, whether RTS, TBS or even something along the lines of Diablo 2.

Bonus points for being able to use your enemy's deaths to expand your ever growing army, to the point of becoming an undead singularity of sorts.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. If you worship either Kikubaaqudgha (suitable for caster necro archetype) or Yredelemnul (more of an evil-priest vibe, basically a non-caster's way to get undead servants) you could do something akin to a necromancer. Both allow for some undead commanding.

Warcraft 3 Undead are pretty good for it as has been said.

Sacrifice allows you to command a bunch of monsters no matter which school you go for, though necromancy monsters are themed appropriately. You do get a spell that lets you revive dead friendlies, appropriately titled Animate Dead. Overall it looks the part but mostly feels like a general wizard/summoning thing with an appropriate theme rather than through and through necromancy sim.

Dominions 4 has some pretty cool undead stuff if you don't mind the visuals. Do give it a look. There's a good number of death-magic nations and you can do some interesting things with those. Same devs have made Conquest of Elysium 4 which should also have a necromancer class to play with. I've only played CoE3, which was neat but flawed. Apparently CoE4 is a bit more neat and a little less flawed, though still very much both. Worth a gander.

I'm not entirely sold on Heroes of Might & Magic undead myself, but they do look the part and games are fun nevertheless.

For your singularity point, I think Dominions and HoMM are most suitable. HoMM necromancers can convert enemy dead into yet more skeletons at a... 3:1 ratio? I forget. And Dominion has a few nations that 'radiate' death and spawn more undead.

[Sonlirain]

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In HoMM5 (at least with the latest patches) the Necromancy skill was changed. Now instead of just raising skeletons you can raise any kind of creature up to and including dragons. However that power is limited by "dark power" you only get a limited amount of every week.
Not sure how they did necromancy in HoMM6 and 7 tho.

[Tawa]

You guys have any suggestions for good 3DS games? In particular, I don't have any traditional turn-based RPGs for it, so any of those would be welcome. I'd go for anything fun, though, but I want to steer clear of simulation, puzzle, and FPS/shmup/etc. games and I'd much prefer something with a reasonably thick plot. Not a serious plot, necessarily, but I at least want a few twists and turns along the way.

Spoiler: My collection thus far, to avoid suggestions of games I already own (click to show/hide)

Both Pokémon games (and Rumble Blast)
Fire Emblem: Awakening
All the Zelda titles for the system
Animal Crossing
Tomodachi Life
Mario Kart, Land, Sticker Star (the last of which was a waste of cash, if I might add)
Fantasy Life
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (I'd also rather steer clear away from 3, if the horror stories I've heard about the swimming controls are true)
Smash Bros.
The one Adventure Time game modeled after Zelda II
Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney, Ace Attorney HD collection
Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D

[Twinwolf]

Bravely Default is something you'd like if you liked the older Final Fantasy games.. Being able to choose encounter rate and speed up combat is a thing that after having, you'll wish all other RPGs with random encounters and grinding had.

The Etrian Odyssey series is a love letter to old-school, first-person RPGs. The map system is somewhat unique and quite fun. And it's hard. The random enemies actually have a good chance at killing you if you're not careful, and there's a reason that FOE's are called by the fandom "Fucking Overpowered Enemies" (Although they can be avoided). The remakes of the first and second (Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl and Etrian Odyssey Untold II: The Fafnir Knight) have more story and pre-made characters, and the fourth one is the most beginner-friendly, but there isn't as much story.

Shin Megami Tensei IV is also good, and also hard. Dying in the tutorial is possible, even likely. You unlock easy mode on your second death; I unlocked it before I got past the first dungeon.

[Elephant Parade]

The DS has an absurdly rich library of RPGs, if you don't mind a slightly messed-up resolution. Seriously, you can get:

• Final Fantasy III & IV (III is pretty bad, in my opinion, but IV is great)
• Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI (IV was one of the first RPGs I ever played, so I might be biased, but I found them really fun)
• Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Heartgold, Soulsilver, Black, White, Black 2, White 2 (it's Pokemon)
• Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (not a traditional RPG, but a really good one; I strongly recommend this game)

Those are the big names. There are a ton more, too, though a lot of them are probably shovelware.

Some 3DS Dragon Quest remakes are going to be coming to the West soon, apparently; those will probably be good.

Edit: Forgot Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, which I really enjoyed. I probably wouldn't enjoy it quite so much today, and it certainly isn't a traditional RPG, but it is turn-based.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

an RPG where unarmed combat is fun, or extensive, or potentially OP. One where I can be a muscle wizard?

EDIT: Preferably that can run on an okay computer, my current laptop is really aging.

[Tawa]

Bravely Default is something you'd like if you liked the older Final Fantasy games.. Being able to choose encounter rate and speed up combat is a thing that after having, you'll wish all other RPGs with random encounters and grinding had.

The Etrian Odyssey series is a love letter to old-school, first-person RPGs. The map system is somewhat unique and quite fun. And it's hard. The random enemies actually have a good chance at killing you if you're not careful, and there's a reason that FOE's are called by the fandom "Fucking Overpowered Enemies" (Although they can be avoided). The remakes of the first and second (Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl and Etrian Odyssey Untold II: The Fafnir Knight) have more story and pre-made characters, and the fourth one is the most beginner-friendly, but there isn't as much story.

I'd actually had my eye on the first one, but I totally forgot about Etrian Odyssey. I'll have to check those two out.

The DS has an absurdly rich library of RPGs, if you don't mind a slightly messed-up resolution. Seriously, you can get:

• Final Fantasy III & IV (III is pretty bad, in my opinion, but IV is great)
• Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI (IV was one of the first RPGs I ever played, so I might be biased, but I found them really fun)
• Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Heartgold, Soulsilver, Black, White, Black 2, White 2 (it's Pokemon)
• Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (not a traditional RPG, but a really good one; I strongly recommend this game)

Those are the big names. There are a ton more, too, though a lot of them are probably shovelware.

Some 3DS Dragon Quest remakes are going to be coming to the West soon, apparently; those will probably be good.

Edit: Forgot Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, which I really enjoyed. I probably wouldn't enjoy it quite so much today, and it certainly isn't a traditional RPG, but it is turn-based.

I already own the main-series Pokémon games listed and I'm trudging my way through a FFIV ROM right now, but I'd heard some about the Mario and Luigi games and the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, so I'll have to look into those as well.

Thanks for the advice, guys!

[Delta Foxtrot]

an RPG where unarmed combat is fun, or extensive, or potentially OP. One where I can be a muscle wizard?

EDIT: Preferably that can run on an okay computer, my current laptop is really aging.

Jade Empire perhaps? Combat system in it isn't the most detailed, it's a Bioware RPG first and a brawler second, but it should be alright for a playthrough. Game works on a three stat system: unarmed combat (with different combat styles), armed combat (there are various weapons but IIRC they didn't vary much in application) and Chi combat (your typical spellcasting, also unarmed combat in shapeshifter form if you fancy that). Different enemies are immune or susceptible to different forms of combat so you need to vary your approach a bit but you can specialize heavily. My only playthrough was with a weapons user, but you should be able double spec yourself as a Chi/unarmed guy, or just go full Chi and make do with ranged casting and/or shapeshifting melee.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

an RPG where unarmed combat is fun, or extensive, or potentially OP. One where I can be a muscle wizard?

EDIT: Preferably that can run on an okay computer, my current laptop is really aging.

Jade Empire perhaps? Combat system in it isn't the most detailed, it's a Bioware RPG first and a brawler second, but it should be alright for a playthrough. Game works on a three stat system: unarmed combat (with different combat styles), armed combat (there are various weapons but IIRC they didn't vary much in application) and Chi combat (your typical spellcasting, also unarmed combat in shapeshifter form if you fancy that). Different enemies are immune or susceptible to different forms of combat so you need to vary your approach a bit but you can specialize heavily. My only playthrough was with a weapons user, but you should be able double spec yourself as a Chi/unarmed guy, or just go full Chi and make do with ranged casting and/or shapeshifting melee.

thanks m8

[Ak-Sai]

Could someone recommend me a good mecha game  ?

I've played Mechwarriors 2 and 4, Front mission 3.

Primary interested in building, customization, battle-testing and maybe some storyline as a bonus )

Thanks in advance!