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[Erils]

FBs and Clowns dont carry weapons or wear armor, so the bug wont really work on them the way you expect.

Now-- Amusing idea: animal creature that has picked up a weapon-- can THAT be "enlightened"?

Say, an antman, or Asax-like?

Why not a kea?

[HmH]

FBs and Clowns dont carry weapons or wear armor, so the bug wont really work on them the way you expect.

Now-- Amusing idea: animal creature that has picked up a weapon-- can THAT be "enlightened"?

Say, an antman, or Asax-like?

Why not a kea?

Keas don't have CAN_LEARN. Their skills don't increase.

[Erils]

FBs and Clowns dont carry weapons or wear armor, so the bug wont really work on them the way you expect.

Now-- Amusing idea: animal creature that has picked up a weapon-- can THAT be "enlightened"?

Say, an antman, or Asax-like?

Why not a kea?

Keas don't have CAN_LEARN. Their skills don't increase.

Someone should mod that in for them. We need Masterswordsmen keas who only fight using the swords stolen from their enemies.

[klefenz]

keas should learn, since they are intelligent birds, and we really need master swordskeas

[Ravendarksky]

This can be easily used right at the start of an embark for an early military.

I started 5 dwarfs off with one point in axe and made a pit as soon as we embarked.

I now have 2  x legendary miner fighters and 5 x legendary axe fighters as the expense of one broken false rib and several bruises/vomit piles.

There is an easy way to get dwarfs into the pit. Simply build a 1x1 bridge surrounded by stone and put a door just before it.
Now enable engraving on the three dwarfs you want in the pit and have them smooth/engrave the three squares furthest from the door.

Once they are in the room lock the door and throw the lever.


Things I discovered:
- Seems to only work on one dwarf at a time (Not 100% sure on this as my dwarfs kept dropping items when they fell down)
- Does not work if there is an item on the square.
- Only works if the spears score a hit on a dwarf.


This is much more potent than a danger room but does allow for more role playing embarks without the need for dfhack. I am going to use this as basically a RNG for combat veterans. Random injuries + high combat skills. I will use them to train my new soldiers without the need for the military training tweak (hopefully).

[Laserhead]

wouldn't the fact that keas fly make dropping them on a spear problematic in the first place?

[YvAd]

wouldn't the fact that keas fly make dropping them on a spear problematic in the first place?

You could either bludgeon them till they passed out with dwarves with wood weapons, or, simpelre route, just use cavein dust.

[misko27]

Ehh. If you really want something as cheaty as this...


On a separate note, I was reminded that a dwarf husk would retain CAN_LEARN and it's equipment. Drop a dwarf-husk on a spear (or huskify a speared dwarf). Voila: Urist McHusk, Destroyer of Worlds.

[wierd]

DF is not yet ready for such a thing.

(But, perhaps in the next few releases, it will be. Toady's been doing some lovely things with worldgen history.)

[Koremu]

This thread unavoidably reminds me of this:

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/09/08/episode-1170-happy-landings/

[wierd]

I'm more reminded of the "special surprise" thread.

(Where the dynamics of falling and lethality were experimentally tested.)

[Zanthra]

Has anyone checked to see if the absolute Z-Level you land on makes any difference?  If you build your shaft 50 Z levels down from another one, does it make any difference?

[chevil]

Has anyone checked to see if the absolute Z-Level you land on makes any difference?  If you build your shaft 50 Z levels down from another one, does it make any difference?

50z levels would create too much enlightenment in too sort timespan and the enlightend would explode.

[Ravendarksky]

Has anyone checked to see if the absolute Z-Level you land on makes any difference?  If you build your shaft 50 Z levels down from another one, does it make any difference?

From what I can see it is simply the interaction of falling dwarf - hitting spears (at a two z level drop)

You gain for every spear hit, all other variables are irrelevant, although more clothing/armour does make you less likely to die. I suggest helmets.

More spears = more chances you won't dodge one of them... really only one spear is needed if you don't mind multiple attempts.... I find 10 spears inflicts too many wounds on the test subjects.

[Ruhn]

I almost passed this topic by, but now I am enlightened.
When the army has suffered heavy losses, and the enemies have breached the gates, the survivors will agree to be baptized and renew the fight.