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[Morrigi]

YouTube goes even further down the shitter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJF0-BkXRg

Thousands of copyright claims are going out to random videos, many of which are invalid to the point of ridiculousness, from companies no one (including the only companies that may actually have a claim

[10ebbor10]

Can we also get a written explanation of what's going on. Some people can't/don't want too watch videos.

Edit: Perhaps relevant?

So it appears that massive amount of copyright claims are being sent, while the gaming companies responsible claim to have sent none. Current speculation is that google implement some automated algorithm, which is a little trigger happy.

[Max White]

Well this is shite. What the fuck are you doing up there Google? Why do you hate your adopted children? Are you trying to kill Youtube just so that we are all forced to stream over Google+ hangouts? Is that what this is? TELL ME!

[LordSlowpoke]

Well this is shite. What the fuck are you doing up there Google? Why do you hate your adopted children? Are you trying to kill Youtube just so that we are all forced to stream over Google+ hangouts? Is that what this is? TELL ME!

FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE PLAYBACK QUALITY

seriously though, it's more and more clear we need a new youtube now~ i said that in the previous youtube thread, too.

[Morrigi]

Can we also get a written explanation of what's going on. Some people can't/don't want too watch videos.

Edit: Perhaps relevant?

So it appears that massive amount of copyright claims are being sent, while the gaming companies responsible claim to have sent none. Current speculation is that google implement some automated algorithm, which is a little trigger happy.

That's pretty much what the guy in the video said. It's Nintendo, YouTube itself, and a bunch of random asshats trying to cash in on the opportunity that no one has ever heard of.

[10ebbor10]

Problem is that youtube is actually profitable now. Hence why they're doing all these protective measures. After all, if some game developer decides to sue, it's google they'll take on, not the individual streamer who has no money to speak off.

[Max White]

Problem is that youtube is actually profitable now. Hence why they're doing all these protective measures. After all, if some game developer decides to sue, it's google they'll take on, not the individual streamer who has no money to speak off.

Except that companies that have no right to the content they are claiming are filing successfully, so it is only a matter of time before a content provider sues Google over having their own works stolen because of this process. Even from a protectionist point of view it makes no sense.

[Morrigi]

Sounds to me like they tried offloading the work of having to sort out videos with copyright onto the companies claiming copyright and onto automated programs, and they utterly fucked it up, and a load of companies, channels and such that don't even have a stake in this are suddenly trying to cash in.

That's certainly what it looks like.

[Bouchart]

There are other video sites...though they are very fragmented.

It seems like it's the type of service where there's one clear front runner and a bunch of marginal also-rans.

[Max White]

Well Twitch is certainly gaining speed for the gaming niche, but it is for streaming rather than more consstructed uploads... Although I'm sure a the need arises they will find diversifying to be rewarding.

[Bouchart]

I've heard more and more about Twitch in recent weeks.  If I had to guess, I'd say they'd host user videos at some point too.

[Squill]

I've barely done anything on Twitch, but I thought it kept records of all your streams. All they'd need to do is implement a search system for archived videos, so that you could easily find what you're looking for.

[deoloth]

A couple news sites, like the escapist, have had video flagged for using content that was actually provided to them by the content holders. I also saw a channel, can not remember who the guy was, report that his videos were flagged even though he was originally contracted by the copyright holder to make them.

Fantastic Job YouTube.... Just... Really stellar effort you put in...

[GiglameshDespair]

Ah. Gaslamp games recently did a blog post on how everyone has permission to use their content in videos, lets plays, etc, without constraint. I wondered why they had. This must be the answer

[Bdthemag]

Most of the people outraged on this (at least that I've seen) are people who make a profit off of the ad revenue gained from doing LP-styled videos on their channel. Looking at both sides, I actually sort of agree with the current actions being taken against these LP'ers. Keep in mind, that these aren't the typical copyright strikes people would occasionally complain about when Youtube received a vague notification of some kind of copyright notification on a video. This is just a simple block which only prevents the owner of the channel from receiving ad revenue from said video. Copyright strikes are typically more severe and result in the account losing certain privileges until the issue is resolved. So the people complaining are largely only angry because they're not making as much ad revenue.

Again, I'm not a strong supporter of copyright laws, but this is essentially people who were comfortable gaining a decent income from ad revenue getting pissed off that's been taken away from them. They're making money off of content they had no direct involvement in creating and expecting that the companies who owned said intellectual property to not catch on and stop it.

Then there comes the argument that their videos fall under Fair Use, which is pretty insulting to things that actually fall under Fair Use like reviews, journalism and criticism. I think if you look at the common LP'er, it'd be hard to argue that what they're doing is actually anything resembling journalism. It's just a bunch of popular Youtuber's getting pissed off they're losing out on a source of income, and are trying to appeal to the emotions of the average Youtuber by trying to pass it off as censorship or Youtube making another shitty mistake.