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[frostshotgg]

Mage's hero power is mutable in that pretty much every mage deck really doesn't need it. You could slap any other power in the spot and it wouldn't make a ton of difference. Mech and tempo mage can't really afford to ever ping stuff, and Freeze mage really only pings their own alcolytes. Pinging stuff is strong, but it's not important.

[Skyrunner]

Pinging their own acolytes makes the acolytes a lot stronger for Freeze mage, though.

Also, I like to use the ping to activate Sheep for a ghetto Flamestrike.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Dutchling]

well thats unexciting

[penguinofhonor]

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[Criptfeind]

Yeah. That's quite a let down. Not to mention that ten bucks for what amounts to a few lines of voice acting and 9 photos is very unexciting and seems a bit on the high side.

...

Wait.

What.

Ten bucks per hero?

Wow.

[Dutchling]

eh, its cosmetic

any price would be reasonable imo

[Cthulhu]

Imaginary images and sound effects are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them.  If people buy it for ten bucks, that's their thing.

[Criptfeind]

I mean, that's fair enough, I certainly don't begrudge anyone for buying them at that price. But just from the standpoint of who's actually going to buy it it seems weird. This clearly isn't a micro transaction that they are going to be trying to tempt people with, at this price it seems to be be purely for ether very rich people who can afford to throw down 90 bucks on nothing, or people who play a lot of hearthstone for free and feel like they owe something to Blizzard for all their free entertainment but don't need to buy arenas. Which, if Blizzard has decided that market is worth going after exclusively, fair enough. I'm just surprised that that is where the money is.

Edit: Or actually I just realized that there might be a lot more people then I was expecting who only play one class. I didn't consider it, because I personally hate that I only have the cards needed to play one class. But maybe if you exclusively play only a single class, even though all the meta shifts, getting that classes alternate art might be worth while as like, a badge of being really hard core into that class or something. Maybe there are a lot of people like that? If so that might make sense, and that's probably information that blizzard has access to.

[penguinofhonor]

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[sambojin]

$10 a pop is pretty pricey for a cosmetic. You're probably better buying 20 packs and dusting everything not useful for $20 (and hoping dust can make cards on the next expansion) or just doing arena. Expand you play styles etc.

There's plenty of people with two of everything they could possibly ever want and just want to keep playing with "more cool stuff". To me, this isn't that, even if I had everything.

[Criptfeind]

So brawl is out. What do you guys think of it so far?

My personal thoughts: The mode is pretty fun. Although sorta a weak start to the brawls. Prebuilt decks are a bit of a let down.

I'm not sure on the balance, I haven't played enough to really tell so far. Although the dynamic between the two heroes is very basic, not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But I sorta like it.

[frostshotgg]

Rag is reliant on Nef getting a bad start (e.g. none of his legendaries) to win. It's a simple dynamic sure, but it's one that almost comically favors Nef. Nef starts out with an ungodly tempo advantage, has an overall better deck, and has a x% chance to win the game each turn by pulling one of a few straight up unfair cards from his power. Rag has a couple cards that are more powerful than anything Nef has in his deck, but very few of them and the majority of Rag's deck is garbage. IF Rag can stop Nef from straight up running him over in the first 8 turns, Rag can usually flip the board with Coren+Brawl and control from there with hero power, but it's too little too late.

[Criptfeind]

I gota majorly disagree on the quality of the deck thing. Flame imp shining out as the one bit of trash, but everything else I've pulled from rag is pretty much pure gold, and all basically exactly what he needs to fight Nef. Not that it's probably enough with a 4 mana lead, but it's certainly geared to help. Nefs deck feels a lot more random and weak overall.

Nef certainly does have some instant win hands though.

[PanH]

I gota majorly disagree on the quality of the deck thing. Flame imp shining out as the one bit of trash, but everything else I've pulled from rag is pretty much pure gold, and all basically exactly what he needs to fight Nef. Not that it's probably enough with a 4 mana lead, but it's certainly geared to help. Nefs deck feels a lot more random and weak overall.

Nef certainly does have some instant win hands though.

Nah, Rag's deck is pretty much shit. I played 13 times as Rag vs a friend Nef (dunno why I was getting only Rag), and I just won 2 times. These 2 times are when he doesn't get Vael turn 2 or 3.
Seriously, Rag needs to survive the first 6 turns, and after that he has the upper hand. But he has shit cards to do this, because they all costs too much or are ineffective.
The only few are Living Bomb and the one that puts corruption on every minions.

Flamestrike is useless (only crea with 4hp is the one that does 3 damage with a dragon and 7 mana), thaurissan and his wife are useless, the first hero power is useless, armor + draw is useless, Baron Geddon is useless (too late and small effect). In comparison to Nef's cards, Rag's costs way too much, especially the ones that are from classes decks (I think the worse ones are the Shaman's with overload).
In a normal deck, Rag's card would be awesome, but most of Nef's minions are 6/6 or 7/7.

Coren is only useful if the Nefarian puts the Golem which reduces spells costs by 3, allowing you to play Coren + Brawl for 6.