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[Superblackcat]

UnExtend, not willing to use it so early

[Elephant Parade]

UnExtend, not willing to use it so early

We need more information! Luke hasn't posted much at all, I won't be able to do anything until after the day ends, and most people are probably about to go to bed. Tell me, when are you planning to use this extension?

[Superblackcat]

Probably tomorrow on Lylo

[Elephant Parade]

Probably tomorrow on Lylo

Why? Give people more information with your answers. Your vagueness is frustrating.

[Gentlefish]

D2, likely. And of not then, D3. The extend should be used when multiple players aren't posting. That said.

unvote.

MakeInu, you have been making more posts. More than Luke.

I should have noticed before, heh. I got too caught up in "You are lurking, explain your self. Now explain yourself more". Which is, while not wrong, not how I was trying to play.

But I do have a question. Imp played the same way as EP did last game, though EP is much, much, MUCH less verbiose than she ever was. She called people out on not scum-hunting the whole game and questioning them about it.

Is that "trying too hard to appear towny?", even though she was town?


Luke: You've made seven posts. Seven. Half of those weren't even close to useful. Consider this vote a vote of no confidence. What do you make of this situation we are currently in?


PPE:

In case this prevents the extend, Shorten.

[Elephant Parade]

Meh. Now that I think about it, my reason for wanting an extend is kinda selfish. I'm enjoying this game, and I don't want to die, which is what I'm pretty sure will happen since SBC and MakeInu still have their votes on me and haven't taken them off.

So un-extend, I guess.

[Gentlefish]

How much time left? It's 3PM forum time or GMT?

[makeinu]

How much time left? It's 3PM forum time or GMT?

GMT.

I'm willing to move my vote to Luke, given his inactivity level. I'm still not convinced that I'm not voting correctly already.

[Elephant Parade]

Let's look at SBC's recent posts, shall we?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Uhh, I just gave you my reason for defending someone.

This is why I find buddying calls are of no use until later in the game. I believe it is not good to vote him, and it's suddenly buddying scum mafia.

This post: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133901.msg4814874#msg4814874 (And one after for clarification of really bad grammar).

Also, please answer my question starting from here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133901.msg4814818#msg4814818

(the second one). There are about 3 questions in posts after that directed to you that you ignored.

I answered those questions. You probably missed those answers due to your mysterious technical difficulties WHICH YOU NEED TO ELABORATE ON. There. You can't have missed that.

I gave a link Puffer. I've really got nothing more, but at the same time, it's the most I've got for anyone.

Restating earlier information without bothering to even quote it.

I second the nomination....


Elephant: It was more of a if No one replies, I don't do anything, ( and 3pm GMT is like 8 here, and I'm at school then) by the end of this. I want someone to die.

MakeInU seems genuinely nooby, it has said that it was a noob and that it thought however it played was correct.


You seem to think that you are not a noob, even though you haven't played in a while, maybe you do think that you are a noob, I'm not sure. But you seem to want to kill it (make in u) for a reason that is... Halfway suspiscious at most, attacking her for things that you seem to be doing, since you haven't done much other than tunnel on it, after your initial startup.

BW means bandwagon.

Tunnel means completely focused on attacking it.

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Ninja post:

Puffer: I think that the accusations against MakeInU are easily nooby, and not worth killing over. It seems to me that Elephant wants someone dead, and he finds Make the easiest to get rid of. I'm sure it has been scummy, but all of it can be explained by pure nooby-ness, and I'm not up for lynching it (Unless something drastic happens) Until tomorrow, D2. (Where it should be more familiar with how this works).

No comment. Other than the fact that he wants me to die.

Elephant: Do you think seeing what the mafia kills based on the information during the day is important?

Random, non-evidence-based question well out of RVS.

Elephant: Lazy actually.

And people rereading this can be less lazy and scroll up 2 posts to your post if they want to.

Makeinu: You realize nl d1 and then lynching d2 is about the worst move you could do....

Since if you mislynch d2... we lose? So if we are lynching, it would be 100000x smarter to NL again if you NLed d1 to go to d3, see who dies, cross that person off the could be scum list, and try to figure it out from there.

No point in lynching d2 if NL. If ML, we must lynch d2 to win.

Stuff about lynch logic.

Elephant, there really hasn't been anything scummy said. The only thing slightly arguable was you and makeinu, and personally, I take makeinu's said instead of yours. From the last game, I basically did the same thing as he did due to the fact that the way mafia is played here is generally different from where I played it. You seemed to be purely attacking him, and didn't do much argument other than 'Makeinu's style of playing is bad-->thus scummy'.

Also, I just got back, and out of the four that replied so far, I only really find you scummy. My argument is basically that there should be no reason that you are attacking makeinu because you are doing what he is doing with much confidence.

PPE:
Make, I am a he.

Defending Makeinu.

Elephant, there really hasn't been anything scummy said. The only thing slightly arguable was you and makeinu, and personally, I take makeinu's said instead of yours. From the last game, I basically did the same thing as he did due to the fact that the way mafia is played here is generally different from where I played it. You seemed to be purely attacking him, and didn't do much argument other than 'Makeinu's style of playing is bad-->thus scummy'.

Again, a bad style of playing is either scummy or useless.

Also, I just got back, and out of the four that replied so far, I only really find you scummy. My argument is basically that there should be no reason that you are attacking makeinu because you are doing what he is doing with much confidence.

Elaborate, please? I haven't been attacking makeinu nearly as much since he started posting more. I was originally attacking him because he was being an active lurker, so I don't see how my style was similar to his.

And now you both seem to be supporting each other. Might be a coincidence, but might also be scumminess.

Superblackcat: Looking over your posts, you have not formed a single proper argument. The only person you've at all attacked is me, which could be considered OMGUS.

Didn't SBC vote you first just now? So wouldn't it be you vote that was an OMGUS, Elephant?

I honestly didn't even remember he voted for me. If I did remember, I probably wouldn't have voted.

Elephant, you might as well start adding others to the group and make a 10 person mafia.


No, his style is not bad, yes it is different to what you are used to... Too bad. Frankly, I had this hardship when I did my previous mafia game, almost got lynched twice (or some number of times) because I played differently. I don't blame you for the bias.

What I do blame you for is that you seemed to attack him and continue to attack him based off of accusations. I started this as a pressure vote, I did not reply to whether that was a pressure vote to.... pressure you obviously.

Now I seemed to get a response that I am not too happy with.

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I have not figured out how to quote, my try last time failed miserably last game....


Puffer (If you want the post, it's the one above this one):

Elephant was indeed trying to start a bandwagon, using 'Day is ending' to fuel it. I am willing to lynch Elephant. He seems to be able to give us a lot of information, even if he isn't scum, just because of the amount of dueling going over him.

Accusing me of trying to start a bandwagon. By the way, did you ever respond to Pufferfish?

Puffer: It wasn't exactly 'Day ending' It was something along the lines of "I am fine with lynching Make as day is ending soon".


Tiruin:

I think the same link that will answer Puffer's question will answer yours...

PPE:

Elephant: For your second quote.... Isn't that what I am supposed to do? I take what they say, throw it at them, if more info comes out, use that, throw it at them, repeat... You seem to be dropping a lot of things that I can through at you...

(Best metaphor ever).
PPEE:

third quote for above^

First quote: It was a joke. I was saying that if you are going to start grouping people together, might as well start grouping everyone. Grouping really isn't evidence until later on, when you look back with more information.


PPEE:

LET ME POST. STOP IT! SERIOUSLY! Makeinu (Just Kidding btw:P)

Making people go and look for old posts to find the answers to their questions. I bet you didn't want her to find the answer, now did you?

Just re going through, It was the quote that Elephant quoted Up there^^^ that I was looking for. Seems to me that I didn't interpret it correctly.


Puffer: I'm sorry I didn't answer your question, but my bombardment of posts should be enough right?

MakeInU: After this reread, I am very disappointed in your OMGUS. (For realz this time though)

No. You have to answer the question.

Also, hey I'm-suspicious-of-you-but-not-really-because-I'm-defending-you-also-not-actually-voting-you. And he didn't answer the question. And Luckyblackcat didn't notice/care.

MakeInU: After this reread, I am very disappointed in your OMGUS. (For realz this time though)

OH COME ON.

Uhh... What? Seems like you figured out your second quote, I think it's a "Yes I have". Frankly, you are much more scummy than he is.

@Superblackcat: Your slightly broken grammar combined with lack of quotes is starting to make your posts a bit confusing. PLEASE use quotes, even if they only contain a part of the question asked.

Elephant: For your second quote.... Isn't that what I am supposed to do? I take what they say, throw it at them, if more info comes out, use that, throw it at them, repeat... You seem to be dropping a lot of things that I can through at you...

...What? That is... exactly what I said? As for trying to argue against your accusations, no duh.

Quote
What I do blame you for is that you seemed to attack him and continue to attack him based off of accusations. I started this as a pressure vote, I did not reply to whether that was a pressure vote to.... pressure you obviously.

You keep attacking people until they let something slip or you run out of information.

I may have misunderstood this, but are you telling me I should be attacking people until they let something slip/run out of info, or should I not. I understood it as I should not, and I was very confused as that is exactly what I should be doing.

Nothing really important here. The reason for OH COME ON is explained here:

Uhh... What? Seems like you figured out your second quote, I think it's a "Yes I have". Frankly, you are much more scummy than he is.

At the time of typing up the thing about pressuring makeinu, you hadn't posted that. That was the reason for

OH COME ON.

as I was frustrated at wasting effort.

I may have misunderstood this, but are you telling me I should be attacking people until they let something slip/run out of info, or should I not. I understood it as I should not, and I was very confused as that is exactly what I should be doing.

You should be attacking people until you run out of info or time.

Alright, so you are telling me to do what I am doing?

Thanks

No comment.

Puffer:

Currently, it is his responses to my questions.

Also, don't be too hard on Makeinu, I was worse my first game in this environment.

Vague, defending Makeinu.

Uhh, I just gave you my reason for defending someone.

This is why I find buddying calls are of no use until later in the game. I believe it is not good to vote him, and it's suddenly buddying scum mafia.

This post: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133901.msg4814874#msg4814874 (And one after for clarification of really bad grammar).

Also, please answer my question starting from here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133901.msg4814818#msg4814818

(the second one). There are about 3 questions in posts after that directed to you that you ignored.

You've been repeatedly defending him! Also, please use url tags.

I gave a link Puffer. I've really got nothing more, but at the same time, it's the most I've got for anyone.

Making people search for information AGAIN.

UnExtend, not willing to use it so early

Opposing the extend without really talking much about why. Maybe he's afraid I'll reveal him later?

Probably tomorrow on Lylo

A bit better. Although tomorrow isn't lylo, and he still isn't saying why it would be better saved for lylo like Pufferfish did.

On an unrelated note, I'm somewhat suspicious of Tiruin. She hasn't been lurking, but she's been posting sparingly and not really targeting anybody, like she's trying to stay out of the spotlight. Hmm...

Anyway, unvote, vote Superblackcat.

How much time left? It's 3PM forum time or GMT?

GMT.

How much time left? It's 3PM forum time or GMT?

GMT.

I'm willing to move my vote to Luke, given his inactivity level. I'm still not convinced that I'm not voting correctly already.

Use red.

Code: (red) [Select]

[color=red]vote[/red]
And now you're bandwagoning and going after the easy lynch, eh?

I might be able to get on in the morning.

[Superblackcat]

I'm still voting Elephant parade, there is no point in voting Luke, as he isn't scummy, he's just... dead.

If we ML, tomorrow is Lylo.

If not, well... Yay!

Let me find those questions..

Who's play style do you like the most?

Elephant, but what about the extra day when you NL? ( I do not agree or disagree, it depends on the situation).

Which post of yours do you think is the most beneficial to town and this discussion?

I found 3...

GG

[Superblackcat]

unvote

vote Makeinu

That vote confirmed the deal.

[Superblackcat]

Elephant, I wanted to see you squirm under my vote... But Yes, I have ran out of things to attack you with, and frankly, you aren't that scummy anymore.

Also, Don't just go and kill Luke, He may just be sleeping. yknow, not everyone wakes up when We start spamming 4 pages.

[makeinu]

Use red.

And now you're bandwagoning and going after the easy lynch, eh?

I might be able to get on in the morning.

Actually, I was hoping to open some discussion around voting Luke for lurking, not get a lesson on bbcodes for color, bay12 mafia voting protocols, or an accusation of band-wagoning on a vote you seem all too eager to start.

Day ends in ~6 hours at the time of this post. I can't be arsed to count up the votes at this point, I'm up too late already, but I will be checking in before the day ends. If you're willing to have a discussion in that brief interval that doesn't seemingly revolve around "I'm more townie than you are", Elephant Parade, great, so am I.

@Luke, un-lurking and posting something even remotely substantive, ideally answering some questions addressed at you in an intelligible manner, would be well advised and welcomed.

PPE: Really, SBC? Can't make up your mind much? Talk about band-wagoning.

[Gentlefish]

He's got nine hours but seven posts isn't nearly enough given the few days he's had to post and contribute. I consider it pruning.

After all, a dead limb only helps infections kill the tree, no?

[makeinu]

This is what I show as the current vote count. I hope I'm not breaking protocol doing this, as I didn't see anything in the rules against it. Related question: is it required to unvote before changing a vote, or is merely inserting a new vote sufficient?

If the latter, these counts are wrong, and Luke has the lead, as Persus voted for him in one post, but I didn't count it as there hadn't been an unvote previous. Of course, I'm assuming a self-vote is a valid mechanic as well.

Vote Count
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Elephant Parade (2) - Persus13, makeinu
Luke_Prowler (2) - Luke_Prowler, Pufferfish
makeinu (1)- Superblackcat
Persus13 (0) -
Pufferfish (1) - Tiruin
Superblackcat (1)- Elephant Parade
Tiruin (0)-

Not voting: no one.

I will consider changing my vote in the morning, pending further enlightenment.

PPE: I can't argue with that point, Pufferfish. He's not only been singularly uncommunicative, but even the few posts he's made have really said nothing.