Makeinu:
After Elephant, who do you think is the most scummy, and why, Are there any that you think is more scummy than Elephant? Which person thus far's play style do you like the most?
After
Elephant, I'm inclined toward
Pufferfish. No, there aren't. So far,
Persus and
Tiruin. I feel that I could learn much from them.
Makeinu, What do you think are the advantages/disadvantages of NL.
D1, we're 7:2. D2 we're guaranteed to be 6:2 if there's no D1 lynch. With a mis-lynch, which is always a strong possibility, D2 opens 5:2, a big scum advantage. So, barring good information, a D1 lynch stands mathematically to give advantage to the scum. Thus, the back-and-forth of D1: information seeking. But, at the end of the day, if all you have to go on are feelings and hunches, you're still more likely mis-lynching than not.
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I was curious to see whether anyone would catch it, and how they'd react.
Yes, you're getting rid of someone who's not contributing to the discussion, but it's longer odds that you're lynching a lurking scum, so in the end, you're giving advantage: scum.
Except that lynching a lurker is still better than lynching an active, non-scummy player.
See my response above, to
SBC. Just because someone
seems scummy doesn't mean they are. Playstyles vary, and what is scummy here is not necessarily elsewhere.
I've read elsewhere that a D1 "no lynch" gives an inherent advantage to the scum. I'm of mixed feelings on this, largely because I believe that goes more to how balanced the game is.
It does, because you don't get information.
As for the second sentence, do you mean that how much of an advantage it gives the scum depends on game balance?
Is the information you gain, which you only gain if there's an informative post-death flip, worth tossing the scum a free kill? After all, the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist. The scum
always look to turn the town on themselves.
Always. Every game. Every venue.
It's convincing the town to do their work for them: kill townies.
As to rthe second sentence, yes. A mis-lynch can very easily turn the advantage strongly to the scum. Hypothetical: what if your target for lynching happens to be the town Doctor who just doesn't happen to be playing well? Sure, he looks scummy as hell, and you sleep well at night knowing you've done the right thing in removing an "unhelpful" player, because you don't know he's scum, but who won in that transaction?
I'm not going to justify the first question with a response beyond this
That was pretty much my reaction when this happened to me for the first time. The problem is that denying the accusation is the intended goal. However, your answer made me think that you don't realize how scummy to us your playstyle is at the moment. It's a very scummy playstyle on this forum.
Apparently, I don't, because I don't see my playstyle as scummy. Live and learn, I guess.
Basically your playstyle could easily be interpreted as trying to be active without actually doing anything. That's a scum tactic, and you seem to be doing quite well.
Fair enough. Again, playstyle differences. Eventually, I shall learn them all.
Tried to hang me with what, exactly?
If we can't find anybody more suspicious, I say we lynch him. A mislynch is bad, but he's not doing much.
Given his reaction to my statement regarding how suspicious I find him, and having had the chance to go through and reread posts, I felt that changing from FoS to vote was entirely appropriate.
My point was that you may know your motivation, but no-one knows if you are telling the truth.
Always a risk one takes. On the surface, we're all lying to one another.
PPE: Thank you both for the link to the acronym thread, and I presume BW to mean bandwagon. <--ninja'd
SBC: He. It's on my profile.
Pufferfish: I find your CamelCase on my name amusing, for some reason.
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