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GOBLINS! AND LOTS OF THEM!

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The assassins in the town!

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Gonzou suiciding!

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The shadow monster encounters of all kinds!

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The mountains!

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The werewolf incident with Nadarr, leading to us getting arrested!

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The bandit camp side quests!

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The fortress upper levels! (Necromancers, gate, madmen)

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The caverns! (Dragon, Cotl, Cave Crocs)

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The Fortress lower levels! (Maze, Grot/Symon/Gonzou Fight, Husks)

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The flesh party that was the final battle!

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The epilogue (and the end of almost two years of madness)

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None! It sucked!

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Total Members Voted: 9

[highmax28]

((Eh, wasn't the corpse kinda prone twice? The first time from something and the second time when it fell in flames? You'd think you could go over a prone dwarf's corpse.))

((They get right back up after they're revived so they aren't standing. And no, you still can't because prone doesn't mean they're still not in the way))

Acid Orb on N1!

A greenish orb flies out of your hands! (17+6) You hit, dealing (3+7) damage! ((Because of apiks pointing it out)) Necromancer3 is no longer bloodied but Necromancer1 is!

Symon begins his turn!

[USEC_OFFICER]

Move Action: Shift south-east.
Major Action: Avenging Echo on Necromancer 1.

[Hanzoku]

((I thought you only took an attack of opportunity when you leave someone's zone of control, not if you moved within it?))

[apiks]

((I thought you only took an attack of opportunity when you leave someone's zone of control, not if you moved within it?))

((I don't know to be fair, but to me it makes sense if you accrue an OA if you move whilst in their zone of influence. That is, without shifting. For me, the moment you enter is when you start taking OAs for movement. Only a single one though, not more. Besides, if you're in front of somebody, you can't get behind them with a shift. You'd need a move. However, I acknowledge that I am most probably wrong on this note.))

[Sirus]

((My impression is that any movement within a threat zone that isn't either a shift or when you first move next to them triggers an OA.))

[highmax28]

((My impression is that any movement within a threat zone that isn't either a shift or when you first move next to them triggers an OA.))

((What I got was the following:

Karl wants to get over past the corpse. The corpse is prone, but alive and hostile.

Karl is on the left, the corpse blocking his path in front of him.

What I got from apiks: Run overtop of the corpse, having your legs grabbed and probably scratched.

What I got from Hanzoku: You can dance around the corpse but you can't step away from it

What I got from Sirus: You can't move without a shift without getting slapped by the corpse except when you first get close to it.

What I stole from the Compendium (praise be wizards and their freedom of taking knowledge!):

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In a fight, everyone is constantly watching for enemies to drop their guard. A creature can rarely move heedlessly past its foes or use a ranged power or an area power without putting itself in danger: Such actions trigger the opportunity attack power. Anyone can use opportunity attack, regardless of class.
    Triggering this power is usually referred to as provoking an opportunity attack, and using it is usually referred to as making an opportunity attack.

OPPORTUNITY ATTACK: OPPORTUNITY ACTION

Melee Basic Attack: An opportunity attack is a melee basic attack.

Moving Provokes: If an enemy leaves a square adjacent to you, you can make an opportunity attack against that enemy. However, you can’t make one if the enemy shifts or teleports or is forced to move away by a pull, a push, or a slide.

Ranged and Area Powers Provoke: If an enemy adjacent to you uses a ranged power or an area power, you can make an opportunity attack against that enemy.

One per Combatant’s Turn: You can take only one opportunity action during another combatant’s turn, but you can take any number during a round.

Able to Attack: You can’t make an opportunity attack unless you are able to make a melee basic attack and you can see your enemy.

Interrupts Target’s Action: An opportunity action takes place before the target finishes its action. After the opportunity attack, the creature resumes its action. If the target is reduced to 0 hit points or fewer by the opportunity attack, it can’t finish its action because it’s dead or dying.

Threatening Reach: Some creatures have an ability called threatening reach. This lets them make opportunity attacks against nonadjacent enemies. If an enemy leaves a square that’s within the creature’s reach, or if an enemy anywhere within the creature’s reach makes a ranged attack or an area attack, the creature can make an opportunity attack against that enemy.

So Sirus is right on this, Hanzoku is half right, and apiks cannot do what he wants))

Move Action: Shift south-east.
Major Action: Avenging Echo on Necromancer 1.

You shift and swing your flail! (19+10) You strike the Necromancer square in the chest, dealing (1 3+4+6+2+2+2) damage! All enemies that ends their turn next to you or attacks you takes (5+2) damage! The necromancer drops dead! Corpse2 and Corpse4 feel a backlash in magic and are stunned!

Necromancer2 gestures and Corpse3 rises again! He swings at Weston and misses as his claws fall short! The Necromancer casts a darkened magic missile at Symon! He hits, dealing ( damage! Symon is now bloodied!

Nadarr begins his turn!

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[apiks]

((Call me blind but I don't see where it mentions that you DON'T get an OA when you first move up to a unit. To get to your desired place, you might need to go through 2 of their zone fields. I'm just saying that that should incur an OA.

Edit: On my 6th reading, it does say "A creature can rarely move heedlessly past its foes...". Which only strengthens what I'm saying.))

[highmax28]

((Call me blind but I don't see where it mentions that you DON'T get an OA when you first move up to a unit. To get to your desired place, you might need to go through 2 of their zone fields. I'm just saying that that should incur an OA.

Edit: On my 6th reading, it does say "A creature can rarely move heedlessly past its foes...". Which only strengthens what I'm saying.))

((That ocmpletely contradicts what I got out of what you were saying. From what I got, it sounded like you said you ignore oportunity attacks from creautres when you're trying to go past them. There is no problem walking up to a unit just getting away or going THROUGH IT causes that))

[apiks]

((Call me blind but I don't see where it mentions that you DON'T get an OA when you first move up to a unit. To get to your desired place, you might need to go through 2 of their zone fields. I'm just saying that that should incur an OA.

Edit: On my 6th reading, it does say "A creature can rarely move heedlessly past its foes...". Which only strengthens what I'm saying.))

((That ocmpletely contradicts what I got out of what you were saying. From what I got, it sounded like you said you ignore oportunity attacks from creautres when you're trying to go past them. There is no problem walking up to a unit just getting away or going THROUGH IT causes that))

((The very first thing I said was about going over the corpse's body. We already covered that and I acknowledged your answer. What I'm saying looks like this:

xxx
xEx
xxx
xxA

x = empty space
E = enemy
A = ally

I'm saying that you CAN'T do the following from the one I showed:

xxA
xEx
xxx

If we consider the ally is going in a straight line. In actuality, he'd be forced to stop at the first square that's in the area of influence of the enemy.))

[highmax28]

((no, he can keep walking but he would take an attack.

Also, I think what was stated means every time an ally or you move past an enemy, depending on the turn, they can get a free attack every time... If that's the case, my DM has once again been doing things wrong))

[apiks]

((no, he can keep walking but he would take an attack.

Also, I think what was stated means every time an ally or you move past an enemy, depending on the turn, they can get a free attack every time... If that's the case, my DM has once again been doing things wrong))

((Exactly. This is why I thought that even if Karl could move 2 squares SE as he wanted, he'd take an OA if he did.))

[highmax28]

((no, he can keep walking but he would take an attack.

Also, I think what was stated means every time an ally or you move past an enemy, depending on the turn, they can get a free attack every time... If that's the case, my DM has once again been doing things wrong))

((Exactly. This is why I thought that even if Karl could move 2 squares SE as he wanted, he'd take an OA if he did.))

((But he can't because his path is blocked by the enemy...Karl cannot get into the room unless he kills the guy and walks in.))

[apiks]

((no, he can keep walking but he would take an attack.

Also, I think what was stated means every time an ally or you move past an enemy, depending on the turn, they can get a free attack every time... If that's the case, my DM has once again been doing things wrong))

((Exactly. This is why I thought that even if Karl could move 2 squares SE as he wanted, he'd take an OA if he did.))

((But he can't because his path is blocked by the enemy...Karl cannot get into the room unless he kills the guy and walks in.))

((On which point I conceded due to gameplay balancing elements. I was talking if he COULD or if the door was a double door.))

[highmax28]

((no, he can keep walking but he would take an attack.

Also, I think what was stated means every time an ally or you move past an enemy, depending on the turn, they can get a free attack every time... If that's the case, my DM has once again been doing things wrong))

((You lost me...))

((Exactly. This is why I thought that even if Karl could move 2 squares SE as he wanted, he'd take an OA if he did.))

((But he can't because his path is blocked by the enemy...Karl cannot get into the room unless he kills the guy and walks in.))

((On which point I conceded due to gameplay balancing elements. I was talking if he COULD or if the door was a double door.))

[Hanzoku]

((In case it got buried in the rule discussion (sorry for that), it's Nadarr's turn))