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Total Members Voted: 10

[Sinlessmoon]

Insanity is fun, but perfectly perfected insanity is even better.

[Gamerlord]

Why not make it really alien?
Seas of molten lead, creatures made of obsidian. Plants of delicate ironwork that grow from silicon seeds.
Make it unique.

None of that makes any sense or fits together in any way!

It doesn't have to. We're God(s). Conventional biology is so dull. Lets make something... new.

Spoiler: Explanation (click to show/hide)

Yes, we could make anything. But it wouldn't be as meaningful if we did so. Would Picasso have thrown watercolors at a piece of printer paper just because he could sell it? Would Nikolai Tesla waste his wits designing an underground steampunk base for no reason? And what reason do we have to create a universe, anyways?

Do we need to make a world for sustenance? No. We could simply sit on our current stock of mana and do diddley squat with it. We don't have a boss or anything telling us what to do. Why, then? To prove our power? Shallow. It doesn't fit a nigh-omnipotent being. So why? Because we can? We can also make it logically.

Any omnipotent being can make a planet of no logic where not even the smallest blade of grass functions without huge helpings of magic; It takes skill to design a world where all the components fit together logically. Any hack can make a planet that looks designed, artificial, random; you need to be clever to make one that flows together naturally. Any toddler can make a bunch of jagged lines in a vaguely quadruped shape, and call it a doggie; it takes a master to make a masterful work of art.

Think of the god as less of a kid going crazy playing Spore 4.0, and more of an artist working on his magnus opus. We want quality, not insanity.


And why is everyone putting top hats on their avatars?

Spoiler: Response. (click to show/hide)

True, this should be a magnum opus, a work of art, BUT, what is the point of greatness if it is exactly the same as that of others? Let others work with carbon and flesh to make life; let's go with self-replicating steampunk organisms! After all, what's the point of power in you don't get a little crazy?

[The Froggy Ninja]

Why not make it really alien?
Seas of molten lead, creatures made of obsidian. Plants of delicate ironwork that grow from silicon seeds.
Make it unique.

None of that makes any sense or fits together in any way!

It doesn't have to. We're God(s). Conventional biology is so dull. Lets make something... new.

Spoiler: Explanation (click to show/hide)

Yes, we could make anything. But it wouldn't be as meaningful if we did so. Would Picasso have thrown watercolors at a piece of printer paper just because he could sell it? Would Nikolai Tesla waste his wits designing an underground steampunk base for no reason? And what reason do we have to create a universe, anyways?

Do we need to make a world for sustenance? No. We could simply sit on our current stock of mana and do diddley squat with it. We don't have a boss or anything telling us what to do. Why, then? To prove our power? Shallow. It doesn't fit a nigh-omnipotent being. So why? Because we can? We can also make it logically.

Any omnipotent being can make a planet of no logic where not even the smallest blade of grass functions without huge helpings of magic; It takes skill to design a world where all the components fit together logically. Any hack can make a planet that looks designed, artificial, random; you need to be clever to make one that flows together naturally. Any toddler can make a bunch of jagged lines in a vaguely quadruped shape, and call it a doggie; it takes a master to make a masterful work of art.

Think of the god as less of a kid going crazy playing Spore 4.0, and more of an artist working on his magnus opus. We want quality, not insanity.


And why is everyone putting top hats on their avatars?

Spoiler: Response. (click to show/hide)

True, this should be a magnum opus, a work of art, BUT, what is the point of greatness if it is exactly the same as that of others? Let others work with carbon and flesh to make life; let's go with self-replicating steampunk organisms! After all, what's the point of power in you don't get a little crazy?

+1

[Lidku]

I say we restore some mana and get the magma lakes going, also some stone sentient stone lifeforms who will start basic civilization. They will live in caves and will build shrines to us to get some mana.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Why not make it really alien?
Seas of molten lead, creatures made of obsidian. Plants of delicate ironwork that grow from silicon seeds.
Make it unique.

None of that makes any sense or fits together in any way!

It doesn't have to. We're God(s). Conventional biology is so dull. Lets make something... new.

Spoiler: Explanation (click to show/hide)

Yes, we could make anything. But it wouldn't be as meaningful if we did so. Would Picasso have thrown watercolors at a piece of printer paper just because he could sell it? Would Nikolai Tesla waste his wits designing an underground steampunk base for no reason? And what reason do we have to create a universe, anyways?

Do we need to make a world for sustenance? No. We could simply sit on our current stock of mana and do diddley squat with it. We don't have a boss or anything telling us what to do. Why, then? To prove our power? Shallow. It doesn't fit a nigh-omnipotent being. So why? Because we can? We can also make it logically.

Any omnipotent being can make a planet of no logic where not even the smallest blade of grass functions without huge helpings of magic; It takes skill to design a world where all the components fit together logically. Any hack can make a planet that looks designed, artificial, random; you need to be clever to make one that flows together naturally. Any toddler can make a bunch of jagged lines in a vaguely quadruped shape, and call it a doggie; it takes a master to make a masterful work of art.

Think of the god as less of a kid going crazy playing Spore 4.0, and more of an artist working on his magnus opus. We want quality, not insanity.


And why is everyone putting top hats on their avatars?

Spoiler: Response. (click to show/hide)

True, this should be a magnum opus, a work of art, BUT, what is the point of greatness if it is exactly the same as that of others? Let others work with carbon and flesh to make life; let's go with self-replicating steampunk organisms! After all, what's the point of power in you don't get a little crazy?

There are no others.
And let me reveal something to you: Come up with a nice, logical way for those organisms to form. Make sure our presence would be almost imperceptible. Then, sure, I'll agree. Until then, you're the guy suggesting that we make our masterpiece a copy of the Mona Lisa but using orange juice and mud to paint instead of paint.

A bit of potential inspiration, and a certain bit of explanation of my point:
"Bender, being God isn't easy....You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket...When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
(Bender's responses removed.)

[Icefire2314]

Why not make it really alien?
Seas of molten lead, creatures made of obsidian. Plants of delicate ironwork that grow from silicon seeds.
Make it unique.

None of that makes any sense or fits together in any way!

It doesn't have to. We're God(s). Conventional biology is so dull. Lets make something... new.

Spoiler: Explanation (click to show/hide)

Yes, we could make anything. But it wouldn't be as meaningful if we did so. Would Picasso have thrown watercolors at a piece of printer paper just because he could sell it? Would Nikolai Tesla waste his wits designing an underground steampunk base for no reason? And what reason do we have to create a universe, anyways?

Do we need to make a world for sustenance? No. We could simply sit on our current stock of mana and do diddley squat with it. We don't have a boss or anything telling us what to do. Why, then? To prove our power? Shallow. It doesn't fit a nigh-omnipotent being. So why? Because we can? We can also make it logically.

Any omnipotent being can make a planet of no logic where not even the smallest blade of grass functions without huge helpings of magic; It takes skill to design a world where all the components fit together logically. Any hack can make a planet that looks designed, artificial, random; you need to be clever to make one that flows together naturally. Any toddler can make a bunch of jagged lines in a vaguely quadruped shape, and call it a doggie; it takes a master to make a masterful work of art.

Think of the god as less of a kid going crazy playing Spore 4.0, and more of an artist working on his magnus opus. We want quality, not insanity.


And why is everyone putting top hats on their avatars?

Spoiler: Response. (click to show/hide)

True, this should be a magnum opus, a work of art, BUT, what is the point of greatness if it is exactly the same as that of others? Let others work with carbon and flesh to make life; let's go with self-replicating steampunk organisms! After all, what's the point of power in you don't get a little crazy?

There are no others.
And let me reveal something to you: Come up with a nice, logical way for those organisms to form. Make sure our presence would be almost imperceptible. Then, sure, I'll agree. Until then, you're the guy suggesting that we make our masterpiece a copy of the Mona Lisa but using orange juice and mud to paint instead of paint.

A bit of potential inspiration, and a certain bit of explanation of my point:
"Bender, being God isn't easy....You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket...When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
(Bender's responses removed.)

easy solution to the argument guys

we're on the Bay12 forums remember
nothing is logical
there argument done
game continues as planned

[Sinlessmoon]

Would you like to attempt to seed the world with the silicon bacteria? 5,000 Mana.

[GiglameshDespair]

There are no others.
And let me reveal something to you: Come up with a nice, logical way for those organisms to form. Make sure our presence would be almost imperceptible. Then, sure, I'll agree. Until then, you're the guy suggesting that we make our masterpiece a copy of the Mona Lisa but using orange juice and mud to paint instead of paint.

A bit of potential inspiration, and a certain bit of explanation of my point:
"Bender, being God isn't easy....You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket...When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
(Bender's responses removed.)

Well, there's at least one other. Most of us are living on it. So let's have some variation.

You say we'd be almost imperceptible... but why? There's no evidence for Gods on Earth yet still billions believe. It is not a stretch to believe that worship will grant us mana, so why would we need to be undetectable? Even if they make requests, we ignore them, and they'll just say 'God works in mysterious ways'.

---

Yes. Seed the planet with life

[GreatWyrmGold]

easy solution to the argument guys

we're on the Bay12 forums remember
nothing is logical
there argument done
game continues as planned

Why does someone trot something like this out whenever we have a debate?

"This is Bay12, we can do anything, so there's no reason to follow any kind of logic or reason, let's just make a random mash of crap."

Well, there's at least one other. Most of us are living on it. So let's have some variation.

None of us exist in the game.
And I never said we'd carbon-copy Earth...just that I wanted a world with logic and reason behind it, not one where even blades of grass need magic to exist.

You say we'd be almost imperceptible... but why? There's no evidence for Gods on Earth yet still billions believe. It is not a stretch to believe that worship will grant us mana, so why would we need to be undetectable? Even if they make requests, we ignore them, and they'll just say 'God works in mysterious ways'.

This goes back to motive. Let's follow your logic train.
Why do we need a world? So we can have worshipers. Why do we need worshipers? So we can get mana. Why do we need mana? To make the world. Nice and circular.
If we didn't make anything, we wouldn't need to make anything. So there obviously has to be some strong reason to make this. "Because we can" is pretty weak, given the time and effort we are putting into it.

Look at this another way. Let's say that you were an automaton with no physical needs. All you had would be paper, pencil, and infinity. You decide to make a collage. Would you simply draw random scribbles and fit them together, or make a proper, detailed, cohesive work of art that you could be proud of?

[The Froggy Ninja]

There are no others.
And let me reveal something to you: Come up with a nice, logical way for those organisms to form. Make sure our presence would be almost imperceptible. Then, sure, I'll agree. Until then, you're the guy suggesting that we make our masterpiece a copy of the Mona Lisa but using orange juice and mud to paint instead of paint.

A bit of potential inspiration, and a certain bit of explanation of my point:
"Bender, being God isn't easy....You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket...When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
(Bender's responses removed.)

+1
Well, there's at least one other. Most of us are living on it. So let's have some variation.

You say we'd be almost imperceptible... but why? There's no evidence for Gods on Earth yet still billions believe. It is not a stretch to believe that worship will grant us mana, so why would we need to be undetectable? Even if they make requests, we ignore them, and they'll just say 'God works in mysterious ways'.

---

Yes. Seed the planet with life

[Icefire2314]

easy solution to the argument guys

we're on the Bay12 forums remember
nothing is logical
there argument done
game continues as planned

Why does someone trot something like this out whenever we have a debate?

"This is Bay12, we can do anything, so there's no reason to follow any kind of logic or reason, let's just make a random mash of crap."

Because its true?

In all honesty this argument has taken up at least a page now and is reaching nowhere. Can we come to a conclusion please or at least take your debate to PM's?

[~Neri]

Lets seed the planet!

[GreatWyrmGold]

It's a debate over the suggestions. We all want to seed the planet with life, but while some of us want there to be a physical basis (I really don't care if we go with carbon or silicon), others want to make random crap that only works because magic.

[The Froggy Ninja]

It's a debate over the suggestions. We all want to seed the planet with life, but while some of us want there to be a physical basis (I really don't care if we go with carbon or silicon), others want to make random crap that only works because magic.

+1 to silicon if that helps

[Sinlessmoon]

You gaze upon the land, looking down on the barren planet, attempting to find a suitable place for this bacteria. It needs to be a perfect place... You form a strand of DNA and encapsulate it. You gave its biological commands. It is to eat, and reproduce via cell division.

What do you want Its functions to be? How do you want its lifestyle to act out? Do you want it to photosynthesize? Take in the Carbon Dioxide and spit out Oxygen or another chemical? Do you want it Silicon? If so we can erode the soil to create silica and a desert, that'll take a million years for a desert to form, but your Silicoln bacteria will be able to thrive.

All in all to create the desert it should take 5,000 Mana.