makeinu Please no big pictures. Big pictures kill my tiny net and increase load times by 100% >_<
That, and I can't see it.
Tiruin, your arguments are not convincing me at all.
Well why don't you poke back at them like you labeled me as a 'defensive forgetful etc.' Which I see you're not detailing there.
Come tonight, when I scope out Persus for a role read? I'll know his role claim is accurate, and he's actually what he claims to be. Which will thoroughly clear him. And if I die tonight? Fine, you'll know whom to blame for it.
...I blame the killer. However I've to note that
Toaster accurate'd Persus as a human. Now unless Toaster is scum (actually the clear-list lacks Toaster but I put him there because of how I viewed him. He's squeaky clean more than squeaky dirty), then..this path of action isn't that practical.
Ooooooor, I could take a read on you, and check your role claim. Would you prefer that? Given that it's Superblackcat who'll be given the ticket home today, not you? That would not, of course, prove you're Town, because you could be a Dopp Heroic Guard, but at least we'd know for sure that you're a Heroic Guard, and not something else entirely.
Don't bother wasting it because I AM- wait for it-
makeinu: Why did you target Superblackcat? Why did you add the 'Town' to your 'Detective'?
First, because Max White felt off to me before he replaced out, and Superblackcat continued to feel off to me after he replaced in. Funny how that works...
Second. What's the point of this question? Because I'm THE fucking Town Detective, that's why!
I AM ALSO THE FRICKIN' TOWN HEROIC GUARD!But I don't have the audacity, subconsciously or not, to make it 'Town' because I'm more than happy to prove it by the test of fire. There's also
THE fucking dopp Detective (which would be real squicky but :v), but who would do that, eh?
Oh, and apparently I can't find someone hiding their role behind an anti-tech field. I should've logicked that one out before, silly me. Good thing I didn't have to target TheDarkStar for investigation. I'd've been double screwed.
I'm unsure if this is sarcasm or not, but Superblackcat is a Hivemind..with an
advanced holoform thingy. That's how you got no role. Which, for posterity, is all Max' fault.
Vanilla Town and all Dopps without an actual role (like, say, a Dopp anyfreakin'role but just Dopp) all show a visible "No role". Which means I can't find the Dopps directly. Toaster can, because he can see their Race, and there's no role that has the "Visible race" attribute. So, yeah, the last Dopp hid N2, laid low, most likely because there was no way to manage a kill without being outed.
"Say, it's really odd that the guy so-and-so was covering got night killed by the Dopp! What's up with that, so-and-so?"
Covering who now? Cado was the one who died. You didn't target Cado...The only one who did is ToonyMan. You targeted the luckyblackkittycat.
Left "in between" what and what?
Ah, I see, let's deflect suspicion at makeinu, because SQUIRREL!!
I've seen UP enough to say that your context isn't that context! D:<That you're uncleared unlike the rest. This field includes me and you, and probably Toaster if he just gambled a 'Human' role outta Persus for nothing, but I duly suspect that the last dopp has a human-role and isn't a straightforward dopp-role given the stuffs that happened yesterday. Or they No-killed, and then made up an action to cover it, which would be pretty hilarious but still possible (but really improbable).
So, neat, everyone's clear in your book except the two we know are Dopps, and....
Eh? I judged those things out of the recent events. TDS is dead D1 so he's utterly out of the equation of 'who acted when and why', Imp dies D2--it can be judged that she was the one ready to act for the kill given her lack of other-role (she's a toughie and nothing else). N2 plays out as a no-kill observation, and thus you have that situation.
How did you discount my words with the logic behind the bolded part? I don't see it. Could'ya magnify it for me?
Oh holy fuck, how is that not WIFOM? You clearly want us to question why you would do something so ... bad scum play ... as defending Imp so that we'll be lead to think exactly that, that you can't possibly be scum, because that would just be stupid to still be defending a known scum, so clearly you must be Town, or stupid, or scum playing badly, or....
Nay, I don't say that 'THIS PROVES ME TOWN BECAUSE I DID X, WHY SHOULD I DO X WHEN X IS BAD OBVIOUSLY?!'. I ask for your opinions--judging it as WIFOM seems more like a defensive measure than not as it throws out an implied meaning instead of giving a true-man's word to the story--their opinion.
WIFOM at first glance is still WIFOM, no matter how much time is spent analyzing it. As soon as it leads into that circular "but if..." reasoning, it's WIFOM. And that did, right from word one.
So too can a jaded person begin labeling all those he doesn't want to hear or that his ears are not aligned towards. You can say stuff are WIFOM, but they still exist, and without giving those things the full measure of thought, then it'll stay in the grey zone as unused evidence.
I remember Sherlock Holmes' quotes. To ignore any sort of path gives way to a dead end. I wanted to see how you saw it. I bold that statement that kills the analysis because it keeps the mindset on one certain track which refuses to diverge from its path of thought.
I mean, I'm playing the whole thing straight by
doing your summarizing for you. Remember that time you call be a list of accusations without bringing up backing to shut the case in? I'm bringing in my own damnation right there, and I get a wayward sign slapped on my face. Of all things present, that's the thing that marks me scummy more than anything, and you don't poke it right.
CazSuperblackcat[/color]
Roll on day 4.
If I were at such extremes with being proven innocent or guilty, I'd rather speak more than just coast along with the time and VOTE VOTE LYNCH KILL.
>_>
Roll on, talk less, leave the day. If you're scum in this game..I don't know what I'll think.
PPE
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Persus: I'd like to point out that I'm voting SBC because he has know lied not once, but twice. He claimed to be an ordinary towny from Makeinu's inspect, something you yourself pointed out was false. Then he claimed to have converted RangerCado last night, something that couldn't have happened given the fact that it would have been revealed when he role flipped. Wait a second, did SBC convert you last night? Is that why you're defending him so much?
Many things wrong with the bolded part (its line of thought)
> Why am I putting out all this info about SBC if I was converted. "O hey Master, I'll just tell these dudes that you have two shields, m'kay?"
> SBC, if known to the general populace, is imperative to lynch (or..not to lynch, given that we can all just lob our votes on the Hivemind tomorrow and all he can do is convert [HOWEVER he can also choose to convert a power role essential to this case...]). If a Hivemind dies, those who are converted dies. Meaning, if I was converted, I'd die--this does not explain me being 'defending' of him.
I'm being 'defending' (if by that you mean being cautious or ponderous) because I'm giving him the benefit of the newbie--I don't like seeing people panic; less so if I smell
genuine 'what do I do' panic. I mean, consider it from my PoV. I've a person here who tells me he has two shields--I ponder on what that is, so I tell it to the public for mass speculation. Flip-flop, out comes information. He then forwards his defense by stating more info that continues the line of thinking..however, said info also
focuses down that list of suspect-roles which he may be. Yea, I was 'defending' him earlier (until I could narrow down that role), because of the pretense that SBC may be a benevolent alien..despite his choice of words (I've got personal experience with these types being that I..acted the same during my newness in games) so you could say I erred on the side of caution.
My opinions on players back then.
Toony seems town with a useful role. Protecting him is important.
Makeinu has claimed Detective. Useful role. If not scum he needs protecting.
Toaster-unknown
Tiruin-claimed Heroic Guard, not voting scum like normal, so town?
Jim-Mind Stealer, scum if Caz is.
Imp-Imp is actually scum? She was one of my suspects.
RangerCado-no clue
@bolded: Eh? 'Voting scum like normal'?
I was absent most of D1 because RL stuffs D:< You tell me if you'd like to either help a good HighSchool friend with her theses on [..this is too personal >_>] and make it
perfect because this thing uses personal information other than play Paranormal--while I really
really really love to do both, I had to make sure that people stay updated with my current status..sure, I posted in other threads, but those posts were to keep those games going on (as I'm usually on the RtD board due to the narrative and literary prospects it offers).
Now on D2..well. I firstly blame timezones, but that isn't the case why I couldn't talk before that ton of vote-switchiness happened..that was due to me having an exam at the time and priorities.
...Now for 'voting scum like normal', you tell me where I should place my vote. On the destined lynch, or on someone else to emphasize my suspicion on them?
As for my doubts about Jim being scum, I always get last minute doubts about whether or not someone's scum, I just rarely reveal them. In Supernatural I was even doubting whether or not Max was scum right before the lynch.
..It's partly obvious by what you're
not saying, truth be told. I tagged a minor note on you as 'If Persus lacks a word count of <15, and only contains a vote with a short sentence, then he's unsure.', with a comedic way of writing it as seen right here.
But yeah I get it. Just checking there.
Mainly the fact that he was involved in both scum lynches.
...This doesn't say much. I mean what
inside that part makes him town? The same could be said to those who have the same votes in the same day on the lurkertracker (ZU's tracker is sooo updated I love it) which i can't recall now because its 3am! Woo~
Also...You have a messed up quote tag that should be addressed to makeinu, not me. The quote starting with "As Jim noted, I played at last-minute "vote gaming"[...]"
Yeah. It links to my post.
How did you even mess that up?! [This is hypothetical and tells you to be more cautious.]
[...]It was only because I pointed out to Meph he had Jim voting twice that we ended up with an Imp lynch at all. I wonder why no one else pointed that out.
*checks back*
Huh. I didn't notice it.
From here, I see nothing from Meph to
here, which is Meph's next post.
...*points at bolded part*
Whaa?
I have to side with Tiruin on this. What Tiruin said isn't WIFOM because it's true. Tiruin is a good scum player who has managed to appear town and win the past two games I've played with her. I doubt she'd be playing this badly (for a scum player) if she was actually scum.
>_>
While this was the idea I was under, I was asking for an opinion..
Fakeedit: Ah, just saw it. Erk.
Wait, I can play that badly as scum! I'm forgetful at times too, y'know. :I
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