Jim:
Jim stays home?
But Mind Stealing is a roleblock + infallible role inspect + infallible alignment inspect + role eraser + wincon adoption. It's probably the most potent role in here right now.
You're right. Consider me a supporter of the Makeinu Amendment.
Tiruin:
Toaster: Why did you target me last night?
I didn't.
Because seriously, that whole 'Why did you kill x' always jives me along the lines of 'I don't have any real suspicions so I'll sling this sack of mud at someone else and look at their reply'. Meaning: I don't like your tactics. It's obvious.
Well, it's obvious that you didn't at this point. I didn't mention this publicly, but I did PM it to Makeinu (whom I believe is extremely town): Ranger claimed to me late D2. He said that if he died in the night to suspect you. Since he did*, I decided to blindfire vote you and see what came up. It's really irrelevant now.
*This is technically not true, since it was a morning kill.
In any case, as has been said, the case on you is elimination. It sucks, but everyone else besides you and SBC has some form of corroboration toward their townhood.
Speaking of SBC: Are you an alien survivor with a shield, whose shield ate last night's NK? If you are, that's fine, you can still win with us; but you better claim it now. If you don't and you come back alien, you'll probably be lynched tomorrow.
Ahh, yes. The plot thickens as the props behind the stage take the fore.
Let me illuminate you on this case: What Ranger tells you, he tells me--and more. He trusted me. I trusted him (I said that he'd be safe tonight, verbatim--I didn't think he'd be a target so I didn't protect him, and I believed he wouldn't be a target), and he trusted me. Even more than he trusted you (while it does seem like a duel from his PoV, it doesn't in mine; he sees you or me as scum, I do not. I believe you're town-ish, despite your...weak excuse for a vote placement. Excuse my English.)
Given how we can quote insider PM's with all else but Meph's Role/Mod PMs, I'm sure you're familiar of the Cado-speak? Answer me first: Why pull such a weak thrust at me there? Your sword is unsharpened, and given the mutual effect we share with Cado, I figure why your vote is still on me--the excuse of elimination is weak and paltry in the big picture; scum have lied about their role, and it ain't me.
So, and only you are getting told this, I had a backup plan. I told both of you who I was, and not to trust the other if I died tonight. Naturally, if one of you were our last Dopp, then the other was likely to heed my words. Currently, I trust you a lot more than Toaster, especially since he pretty much dropped it the second after I told him. My chances of hitting our last Dopp player were still pretty low either way, and I'm a gambling man when it comes to online games. (Never gonna play any game with my own money on the line) So I did have a small amount of Distrust still, but I trust you fully now and I really hope I'm not wrong on this.
Y'know, I like how it copy-pastes even emoticons. That's brilliant forum work.Now the bolded part isn't in the original-I highlighted it for emphasis.
What did you drop there?
Roleclaim:I am who I am. I protected Imp N1 - due to my personal outlook on her and her analytical acumen, my claim and my actions D2 were to inspire
quite much anything, I didn't have a goal for my claim, as it had no value other than me being a literal martyr. I sorta played a gambit that Imp was town, hence my defense of her--Though, I suspect those who out me as scum because of that; sense being that if I'm scum, I don't blatantly defend my teammates on the noose when the case drops to that point (ie Previous suspicion raise on valid notion).
N2 - makeinu. We've a Detective (and I guess I'll spill what SBC said anyways). Gumshoes are usually important and given our chum-talk last night (quite the joker, silly man. :I) I surmised that he'd be a better target for scum. So I defended him [Me and Persus agreed to protect one or the other. Guard-talk in betwix the lines.]. Even before N2, I decided to protect makeinu because he claimed Detective and by his reasoning beforehand.
Funny how it turns out right now, eh? The votes? One vote being a placement, Toony's being a sillyvote, makeinu being a...weird unspecified and unexplained vote (I hate labels dude. Do not blame me for my assertive aggression on you.), and his come up on a deal of me or the other? It's too shallow--while I'd probably have valid room for complaint on the scumteam's performance, I'm sure the last one would've been smart enough to create a good smokescreen given the probability of PMs and such.
Scumlist:
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Jim/Caz (I hate you but since you're clear via accomplice... :I)
Persus - all three are in the higher echelon of innocence
ToonyMan - would tie with makeinu because of his acting..but damn me if empirical evidence states otherwise to the action before. The sacrifice of an ally in that one case? Very doubtful if he's scum. Comparing it to myself..bleh, not worth it.
Toaster - While I've been in correspondence with Ranger, we discussed you in thoroughness. He, unlike what makeinu claims, sees a lot of townpoints in me--the reasons for him not trusting you, he said would be withheld until morning (see up), but then chose to PM me a bit before day start just to be sure.
makeinu - Personally, I feel betrayed, but that's not important--what is important is how he's..
bargaining an either/or and presenting the course of elimination. It's a simple reason, and surely that what anyone could've done, however I present another counter reason: Look between the lines. How in the world is that going to work if a spanner is introduced in the works? Sure, we've at best-1 dopp, precluding any malevolent alien-but that
does not mean we can denounce and discard people like random.Superblackcat: Until he speaks, lies in this area, vaguely between makeinu and the rest. Prior actions speak--what redeems him is his questioning nature, though that is also nebulous in my eye, but seemingly points towards a good end on my thoughts...somehow.
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I want a clean game as anyone else, and now knowing that the assassin bot is used (really,
Caz. You
used it on RangerCado without even letting him speak?!). Very smart move.
EXPOUND ON WHY YOU DID SO EVEN THOUGH EVIDENCE MOSTLY POINTS TO YOU AS INNOCENT!PS:
Toaster: Confirm for me. RangerCado has the Surveillance System, aye?
PPE:
makeinu..Wow, that's such an abject accusation, that I'm really insulted. Go burn,
makeinu. Explain how you got
TWO people in cahoots given your PM claims. Explain how you're seeing 'similarities' with my BM play and my -here- play.
I hate metaknowledge, and I will act like a vengeful peasant who has been driven off her land, her family held against her, placated only by the thought of her being labeled as...
stuff. Like a witch, that she's out 'for the better good'. In short, I hate labels. I hate being 'known' because of past deeds, hence why I make my playstyle amorphous--always varying, shifting, and non-conventional. Unorthodox, probably.
If I've been "mostly defensive, deflective" and even "reactive", then hit me buddy. I trusted
you. Do you think that thing of being snowed out goes only one way? Hell no.
Is my lack of assertion a scumtell for you? Aww..guess we're not all choleric temperaments here, are we? Some of us are Phlegmatic//Melancholic. Some of us prefer the scientific method to solve scumminess. Some of us have been too entrenched in a Philosopher's viewpoint to try the direct method.
I question before attack. I tend to ensure my targets are valid, in the least. WHile my intuition plays a role here--I often override it in lieu of where my analysis goes. You see me as defensive/deflective and reactive? Why not hit me there in the BM Sprint as I did say: I need criticism. Here I go and get bitten on metaknowledge because I'm acting the same?
Oh, and go call that an OMGUS--My reasons are basically on how your actions come and go. It's becoming more flippant than not, and your wording adds to the seriousness of the case.
Jim and I started talking because of my investigation of him.
Persus and I started talking before that because I reached out in trust; I had a good feeling.
Persus and Jim have not spoken directly that I'm aware.
In which
you lied to Persus?!Mmm, nice trust. I begin to doubt how much you've told me either, however its mostly been good banter, now that I see.
Guess what, I was the one to initiate conversation with you--not the other way around. Guess that implies much on how you trust me in-game, huh.
You said
Because I didn't feel that I could trust you. I'm still not sure, but there's nothing to hide now, is there?
behind the lines about why you didn't PM me. Good reason, but I've to sate my curiosity. What was there to hide? Why lie at this time, when there is only one scum left? If you think I'm scum--given that the evidence was placed
at the end of D2, then what did you have to tell me other than 'I'm telling Jim that I'll be targeting SBC tonight'.
Wait, that's what you did. Leave me in the dark with all this then? So be it.
As for
SBC: He claimed that he had a shield assigned to him as a passive--and gained
another one..something like that (while the logs are forwarded to Meph, I..don't have them at the moment and will ask Meph for it..if that's even possible. I'm new to this PM nonsense). Firstly, he said what he said could be fraught with lies.
> From what I could glean--he said he has
both an Anti-Tech//Mind shield. He explained that makeinu isn't...'what he seems to be', paraphrased and that makeinu hit a shield which is why you got a No Role thing.
> He tells me he is town. I'm more inclined to believe that given the abrupt change @D2 end. However, he was...reluctant or probably withdrawn when pressed on the matters of his role. He says he's town, but can't tell me his role. I went in detail on communicating the prospect of me being dopp/town and the reasons on why it won't darn matter to me if he tells me either way (He told me after Day start btw, when I couldn't connect to Bay12) Still, it lies in the murk, and all my memory retains are these notes.