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[Urist McRas]

Someone mentioned that one can build a walkable bridge over the ocean and it will provide access for traders. I decided to investigate. It turned out, that one don't need to actually build the bridge.

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1 - island in the middle of the ocean. There were no access there for elves, humans and goblins.
2 - a series of embarks in the ocean. Those are standart 4x4 embarks, not connected to the edge of 16x16 region. I didn't build there anything, just embarked and abandoned.
3 - now there is access there for elves, humans and goblins.

Update: I checked, caravans really come.

[Merendel]

"Many dwarven settlers drowned to bring us these traders."

Intresting bit of information though.  Thanks.    You probably could have just done a series of 1x16(or whatever the max size is) to speed up the proccess.   An oddly shaped embark or one too large to be playable under normal conditions isnt really a problem when all your doing is embarking and abandoning.

[Urist McRas]

One 4x4 embark per region is enough:

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[WoobMonkey]

Thank you for taking the time to do this research, Urist McRas.  Perhaps, sometime soon, it will lead to some interesting succession forts!

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I imagine that the only way for the those neighbors to get there is by crossing a bridge made only of the corpses of dwarven settlers and the wood of their smashed carts.

[wierd]

Interesting.

I have done this before, but created the bridge using DFHACK's liquids command to spawn a big obsidian bullwark.

Interesting that you dont actually NEED pathing for the traders to show up.

Why do I now envision "Oregon trail" style "Ford the river!" antics as the dwarven merchants with carts full of gold and lead bars try to cross the ocean?

Now I wonder about worlds with multiple continents that are seperated, if you could get many MANY MANY necro towers as neighbors this way?

(The AI that places them seems to favor putting them in coastal areas on the edge of mountain foothills and the like. Worlds with many volcanic/mountianous islands and isthmuses tend to have a greater than average density of them, so if you could create "Connections" after world gen, you could end up with an embark with many of them as neighbors.)

[Ianflow]

Now I wonder about worlds with multiple continents that are seperated, if you could get many MANY MANY necro towers as neighbors this way?
(The AI that places them seems to favor putting them in coastal areas on the edge of mountain foothills and the like. Worlds with many volcanic/mountianous islands and isthmuses tend to have a greater than average density of them, so if you could create "Connections" after world gen, you could end up with an embark with many of them as neighbors.)

So, this makes me want to imagine the potential Succession Fort....
I mean, not just that, but due to abandoning, you could have those who survived said abandoned forts, migrate to your fort.

[oldark]

How do you get an ocean embark that doesn't instantly cause the game over message? Or did you just abandon before unpausing?

[Urist McRas]

I abandoned before unpausing, but settlers were drown on arrival, so no choice here.

[Urist McVoyager]

With 10,000 point embarks and precise placements of sites, one could build an actual bridge. It'd take a long-ass time, but . . .

-Gets ideas for the next version, since History will follow you along.-

[Dorsidwarf]

With 10,000 point embarks and precise placements of sites, one could build an actual bridge. It'd take a long-ass time, but . . .

-Gets ideas for the next version, since History will follow you along.-

See: Oceanbridges