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Author Topic: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?  (Read 5015 times)

Tack

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Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« on: November 22, 2013, 12:34:45 am »

Bitcoin is an 'International Currency'
Esperanto is an 'International Language'

This could be the next logical step in worldwide relations.

Sorry, this OP will need to be filled up more later.
As for now, I leave you with these tiny tidbits in the vain hope B12 can formulate them into a vehement intelligent discussion.

(also i have little doubt that either or both of these have been brought up, but I'm planning to facilitate this discussion purely on the merits and failings of introducing international ideas such as this.)
What is next? Is this harming cultural identities? Are there security issues involved?
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 12:39:59 am by Tack »
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Re: How long until we're spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 12:36:05 am »

I give it thirty-five centuries after the US switches to metric.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 12:58:59 am »

I heard someone also tried something similar with Religion, but as expected it must've fallen through as i can't find it anywhere.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 05:15:53 am »

Mi intime atendantas la evoluadon de ĉi tiu diskucio. En mia sperto, tamen, la aro de Esperantistoj kaj tiu de Randrojdoj estas aroj reciproke ekskuzivaj (la bitmoneranoj emas esti libertarianoj, kaj la Esperantistoj emas esti antinaciistaj maldekstranoj).
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2013, 05:23:02 am »

So far, neither of them have seen as much success as dollars and English have had so far. I expect the established international lang and currency to continue for quite a while.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2013, 06:22:55 am »

Bitcoins fundamentally do not work on a large scale.   Transactions are already extremely slow, and it would be unusable if a significant number of people began using them.  They're essentially a speculative commodity.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2013, 06:41:19 am »

I would be in favour of a world language but to be honest I would prefer it to be english since I already speak that. Or french, because french is beautiful. Fuck my native tounge though, swedish is a silly language.

In theory I would be in favour of a world currency as well but in practice it just wouldn't work, countries are too different economically to have a single currency with the same value.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 07:43:38 am »

The BitCoin seems to consist entirely out of fail from what I've heard of it so far and if you want to have an international language just learn English, Spanish, and Chinese and pretend it's one language. Maybe add Russian, French, and Arabic to the list as well :v
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 10:23:18 am »

English is pretty much the dominant language of the technologically literate. It's what programming uses, and that certainly won't be getting any less important over time.

And yeah, bitcoin is a terrible speculative bubble, and the entire thing will come crashing down within the next 5 years. The way it was set up is the very opposite of stability, which makes it useless as a currency, but attractive for speculators.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 11:19:35 am »

la bitmoneranoj

And that answers the only questions I had, namely "What is Bitcoin in Esperanto?"


Also, it's worth noting that English is a terrible language, from a linguistic perspective. My 7-year old is discovering this in that they've been teaching her phonics and how to sound out words to make a guess at spelling them. Which fails on so many common English words. Like the word phonics, for instance. (Fonix? Fawniks?)
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 01:36:23 pm »

I think the way I heard bitcoins described was buying stock in the tendency of people to speculate. Or something like that.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 03:21:50 pm »

Esperanto is a poor attempt at creating an international language. It is terribly Eurocentric and could only be viable as a "European" international language, but even then there are a number of language families within Europe that are in no way represented by the language. Granted, it has served a purpose to an extent, but we should look further afield if we wish to create something truly "international".
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 03:33:02 pm »

An international language only functions if everyone learns to speak it. Truly, taking elements from every language seems like a good idea, but in the end it just overcomplicates things. The language should be clean and simple. If you can add things from other languages to it, great, but try to keep it understandable,.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 03:44:52 pm »

taking elements from all languages also means that no one actually speaks the language, providing no incentive to learn it for the general populace.
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Re: Spending Bitcoin and speaking Esperanto?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 03:47:29 pm »

An international language only functions if everyone learns to speak it. Truly, taking elements from every language seems like a good idea, but in the end it just overcomplicates things. The language should be clean and simple. If you can add things from other languages to it, great, but try to keep it understandable,.

But Esperanto is truly a Eurocentric language. It has no influence from languages that aren't Germanic, Romance or Slavic. The least they could do is include a bilabial click or glottal stop every once in a while.

taking elements from all languages also means that no one actually speaks the language, providing no incentive to learn it for the general populace.

But as Esperanto stands it takes elements from at least three main European language families, so it's already got that problem.
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